The Outer Limits Principle

[wagtunes]

Except I don't consider this a waste of my time. If you consider it a waste of yours, why bother to even respond? If you have nothing constructive to add, there are other threads here more deserving of your time.

What is your goal then, you are not a developer as stated by yourself.

Yet you crave new original stuff, do you think you can enslave some dev to do it for you.

How about read the OP? Nobody's enslaving anybody. I'm asking a question. You don't like the question, go participate in some other thread and stop derailing this one. Okay?

[fisherKing]

samples. why not use samples for the 'other sounds'? or get a plugin that reads samples and can be manipulated. it's the end result that matters, and what you need is do-able now (even if that means using samples, or more than one plugin).

humble suggestion: don't overcomplicate this; you could be doing what you want right now (instead of keeping up with this thread)....

and stop fighting with everyone.

[wagtunes]

samples. why not use samples for the 'other sounds'? or get a plugin that reads samples and can be manipulated. it's the end result that matters, and what you need is do-able now (even if that means using samples, or more than one plugin).

humble suggestion: don't overcomplicate this; you could be doing what you want right now (instead of keeping up with this thread)....

and stop fighting with everyone.

I've tried to be very civil about this. Read the responses I've gotten. Some people here want nothing more than to cause trouble and be argumentative. If somebody acts in this manner, yes, I will fight with them because I am sick of it.

[Numanoid]

How about read the OP? Nobody's enslaving anybody. I'm asking a question. You don't like the question, go participate in some other thread and stop derailing this one. Okay?

Have you already forgot what you wrote?

Where is the truly unique "never done before" stuff?

According to logic: "Never done before" means it needs to be made

Or maybe it's a hidden commercial for your next patch set

[Elektronisch]

wagtunes,

i think you have way too much free time if you think of this and even analyze what is already obvious. Time is precious, dont waste it, life is too short.

Except I don't consider this a waste of my time. If you consider it a waste of yours, why bother to even respond? If you have nothing constructive to add, there are other threads here more deserving of your time.

No?

My means are definatly not to offend you or anything bad. But this obsession to search for something that does not exist and probably never will, being not satisfied wich what currently exist, creating topics about this matter wich lead to nothing but to your personal preferences. Man it looks like this is driving you crazy.

By all means i dont mean to offend you (again) but i feel a responsibility to point out that need vacation from all of this synth thing.

[wagtunes]

How about read the OP? Nobody's enslaving anybody. I'm asking a question. You don't like the question, go participate in some other thread and stop derailing this one. Okay?

Have you already forgot what you wrote?

Where is the truly unique "never done before" stuff?

According to logic: "Never done before" means it needs to be made

Or maybe it's a hidden commercial for your next patch set

Can't anybody here be serious about this?

Look, this isn't complicated.

I'm sick and tired of the same old osc, osc, osc, filter, filter, lfo, fx favor of the month. I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

That's all. If it's not going to happen, fine, it's not going to happen.

I'd just like to know why? Is it money? Is it nobody cares? Is it nobody can think that far out of the box? Is it all the above?

[wagtunes]

wagtunes,

i think you have way too much free time if you think of this and even analyze what is already obvious. Time is precious, dont waste it, life is too short.

Except I don't consider this a waste of my time. If you consider it a waste of yours, why bother to even respond? If you have nothing constructive to add, there are other threads here more deserving of your time.

No?

My means are definatly not to offend you or anything bad. But this obsession to search for something that does not exist and probably never will, being not satisfied wich what currently exist, creating topics about this matter wich lead to nothing but to your personal preferences. Man it looks like this is driving you crazy.

By all means i dont mean to offend you (again) but i feel a responsibility to point out that need vacation from all of this synth thing.

Thank you for looking out for my welfare but I assure you that I am fine. I am just wondering if man truly has reached the point of procreation only.

[Numanoid]

I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

Now it is you who are not reading my posts

If you are not a dev, who's gonna do it?

What you need to do: draw up your unique design, and contract a dev to build it for you.

[wagtunes]

I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

Now it is you who are not reading my posts

If you are not a dev, who's gonna do it?

What you need to do: draw up your unique design, and contract a dev to build it for you.

My friend, if I were truly that creative, don't you think I would have done this already?

[Numanoid]

I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

Now it is you who are not reading my posts

If you are not a dev, who's gonna do it?

What you need to do: draw up your unique design, and contract a dev to build it for you.

My friend, if I were truly that creative, don't you think I would have done this already?

I just don't get your logic, how can you crave new stuff, when you don't know what it is.

To be able to want something, it seems one need to know what one wants

If not, why do you even want something else than you already got.

Except wanting something new, what is the use of wanting it?

[wagtunes]

I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

Now it is you who are not reading my posts

If you are not a dev, who's gonna do it?

What you need to do: draw up your unique design, and contract a dev to build it for you.

My friend, if I were truly that creative, don't you think I would have done this already?

I just don't get your logic, how can you crave new stuff, when you don't know what it is.

To be able to want something, it seems one need to know what one wants

If not, why do you even want something else then you already got.

Except wanting something new, what is the use of wanting it?

For the same reason that people with 50 synths go out and buy synth number 51. Except for me, outside of the necessity of buying synths to keep my patch business running, there is nothing out there that makes me want to get it just to make music with because it is so amazing. It takes a lot to wow me these days.

Do you realize that it's already 4/2 and I've yet to spend $1 on synths this year? I don't even know if I will make a synth purchase this year. I already have enough synths to make patches for the next 5 years.

I'd just like somebody to excite me with something truly unique. Again, for no other reason than the guy with 50 synths buying synth number 51.

I'm just being a lot more picky than he is.

[Numanoid]

I'd just like somebody to excite me with something truly unique. Again, for no other reason than the guy with 50 synths buying synth number 51.

I'm just being a lot more picky than he is.

I'm not sure about that.

I just don't get how you can know what is truly unique when you encounter it, if you can't even put pen down on paper and make a simple design of something like that.

Seems to me you are just looking for a new thing to follow, just because it is new

[Elektronisch]

How about read the OP? Nobody's enslaving anybody. I'm asking a question. You don't like the question, go participate in some other thread and stop derailing this one. Okay?

Have you already forgot what you wrote?

Where is the truly unique "never done before" stuff?

According to logic: "Never done before" means it needs to be made

Or maybe it's a hidden commercial for your next patch set

Can't anybody here be serious about this?

Look, this isn't complicated.

I'm sick and tired of the same old osc, osc, osc, filter, filter, lfo, fx favor of the month. I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

That's all. If it's not going to happen, fine, it's not going to happen.

I'd just like to know why? Is it money? Is it nobody cares? Is it nobody can think that far out of the box? Is it all the above?

I dont understand what do you want more out of it. Things aside OSCilators are essential. If you dont like them, dont use those. Look at Image-Line Harmor, you can do alot of stuff just from simple jpg image and no need to use mentioned modules.

[Elektronisch]

I'm wondering if somebody has the vision to create a synth with a truly unique engine.

Now it is you who are not reading my posts

If you are not a dev, who's gonna do it?

What you need to do: draw up your unique design, and contract a dev to build it for you.

My friend, if I were truly that creative, don't you think I would have done this already?

I just don't get your logic, how can you crave new stuff, when you don't know what it is.

To be able to want something, it seems one need to know what one wants

If not, why do you even want something else then you already got.

Except wanting something new, what is the use of wanting it?

For the same reason that people with 50 synths go out and buy synth number 51. Except for me, outside of the necessity of buying synths to keep my patch business running, there is nothing out there that makes me want to get it just to make music with because it is so amazing. It takes a lot to wow me these days.

Do you realize that it's already 4/2 and I've yet to spend $1 on synths this year? I don't even know if I will make a synth purchase this year. I already have enough synths to make patches for the next 5 years.

I'd just like somebody to excite me with something truly unique. Again, for no other reason than the guy with 50 synths buying synth number 51.

I'm just being a lot more picky than he is.

You are not picky. You can say you are picky when you have to choose from something. But from what you are saying you dont even have a choice.

[wagtunes]

I'd just like somebody to excite me with something truly unique. Again, for no other reason than the guy with 50 synths buying synth number 51.

I'm just being a lot more picky than he is.

I'm not sure about that.

I just don't get how you can know what is truly unique when you encounter it, if you can't even put pen down on paper and make a simple design of something like that.

Seems to me you are just looking for a new thing to follow, just because it is new

Okay, here is the idea that I have. Again, I am not a techy and don't know how to put this in any kind of technical terms that a dev would understand. If this makes no sense to you, it would not surprise me. But it's the best my mind can do with this abstract concept.

The synth, for starters, would have no set structure. So you would not be limited to a certain number of sound sources, modulation sources, etc.

Sound Generation Section

You would initialize the number of sound sources you want up to infinity. Naturally, this would still be limited by your CPU.

Each sound source would be composed of bits, 1s and 0s. You can have as many bits as modern PCs can calculate, whatever that number is.

Each bit would then have a number of modulator bits. This can also be as many as a PC can calculate.

So you can have a simple sound source with say 8 bits and each bit could have 4 modulator bits. Or 4 can have 4 and the other 4 can have 2. Each time you added or subtracted bits to either the sound source or the modulators, you'd hear a change in the sound source itself.

You can then string these sound sources together in parallel or serial. You can have one sound source modulate another sound source if you want. If you have 8 sound sources, you can have sources 2, 3 and 5 act as sources and 1, 4, 6, 7 and 8 act as modulators and each one can modulate a different sound source.

Okay, I will stop there or this post will turn into a book.

Get the idea?