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BITWORD · Post by **BITWORD** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:30 pm

xoxos wrote:isn't there some kind of algorithmic genre name creator web app to answer these kinds of questions for us?

http://jbdowse.com/genres

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:32 pm

https://www.jukedeck.com/

Already scary.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:38 pm

If you define success as the acceptance of peers and income from your music, then you must submit to the hierarchy and study a specific genre, and replicate it as closely as possible. There's no reason you can't do so and still have fun, put your own "spin" on it. There's not a thing wrong or harmful in doing that.

Or...

Find your monster. It's in there, we all have one (or more). Prod it. Find what terrifies you. Find what makes you feel primitive and enraged, and feed that f**ker your soul. You may find this inner demon gives you more material than you can keep up with.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:39 pm

Retire

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:39 pm

In Soviet Russia music genre choose you.

EdSevered · Post by **EdSevered** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:40 pm

Codestation wrote:If you define success as the acceptance of peers and income from your music, then you must submit to the hierarchy and study a specific genre, and replicate it as closely as possible. There's no reason you can't do so and still have fun, put your own "spin" on it. There's not a thing wrong or harmful in doing that.

Or...

Find your monster. It's in there, we all have one (or more). Prod it. Find what terrifies you. Find what makes you feel primitive and enraged, and feed that f**ker your soul. You may find this inner demon gives you more material than you can keep up with.

Said so much better than my attempt!

BITWORD · Post by **BITWORD** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:41 pm

Codestation wrote:
Find your monster. It's in there, we all have one (or more). Prod it. Find what terrifies you. Find what makes you feel primitive and enraged, and feed that f**ker your soul. You may find this inner demon gives you more material than you can keep up with.

This is good advice! For any form of Art - Find it inside of you.... Perhaps invent the next Genre

HREQ · Post by **HREQ** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:43 pm

Yo, alot of people are jumping the gun on the money thing.

The genres in my post are already like zero money makers in the USA. Eurobeat is outdated, denpa is underground as f**k, jpop mostly sells in japan. Metal has always just been underground pretty much.

The genres I posted are the ones I truly love and grew up listening to. It seems underground artists who don't make money still stick to just one of them. That's what I'm trying to say here lol

I just want people to hear the music I make, sure I want fame and success as well, but fame and ppl hearing my music go hand in hand so I don't see what's wrong with that lol

Zexila wrote:You are going trough a phase right now, majority of us did, don't bother, you will never get anywhere because you are driven with money and fame in mind and that music seeks heart and soul, it's not just numbers and formulas, people do connect to it, you really need to feel that stuff and wrap it up nicely, that's gift for itself, making stuff people will swallow with joy.

You will get so desperate at one point, so many stress and headaches, sinking lower and lower, not knowing what to do anymore, wasting time and money, swallowing your pride and dignity for what, nothing my brother, just get that stuff out of your head and make music you love, enjoy every bit of it, because, believe me, you will never manage to fake faking, you need first to master the stuff you are faking and you need lot of experience and time, by then, some new genre will pop out and you will be desperate because you wasted your time on something else, that's how that goes.

So make what you really have in yourself and you will feel joy from doing it, if that stuff resonates with people and you get famous for it, awesome, if not, who cares, you are feeling awesome all the time.

But yeah, come back to this thread when you got depressed, until than, I know you will chase this until than, so good luck, don't do drugs, you will feel even worse.

Hey, you're absolutely right. I've actually kind of gone through that phase but I'm still slightly in it. I looked up max martin and the top POP chart producers for america, and was all planning to dumb down my shit and copy pop formulas, I spent 5 months on that then I was like "what am I doing", I don't really like this music."

The genres I presented in my post are actually one I truly love and want to make. Eurobeat, jpop, power/symphonic/neoclassical jmetal and denpa, then touhou video game music. I grew up listening to all these and literally love them all. What I'm having a dillemme with is choosing just one type to produce. I'm kind of referencing underground artists when I say, they stick to literally the same genre. I think they literally just started out wanting to produce that single genre and stuck with it or something.

I guess, I could just choose the profile and just produce what I want, and produce metal, then a happy cutesy denpa song, then some video game music, then some synthy jpop music, but it seems kinda chaotic, to release stuff randomly like that under one name... Like this is where fame / making money is kicking in for me, limiting myself to one genre instead of just making all the ones I want.

It's like having 5 types of deserts that you love, but you're limiting yourself to just one to eat instead of eating each one on different days, or like you like to play football basketball and baseball, but you want to be known as a football player not a guy who plays every game. Something like that... I guess you're right though I should just produce music and not care what genre I'm focusing on and what stereotype I'm fitting in etc.,.

thecontrolcentre; wrote:It depends why you are making music in the first place. If you want "success" in "the business" then pick a genre and stick with it and maybe you'll get somewhere. Maybe.
I don't produce in genres, but have still been lumped in with 'techno'. 'drum n bass', electronica, etc over the years. I think it only matters if you're releasing records/cds and/or gigging. It's a marketing tool.
Just make what you make and let other people worry about which category to put you in. Absorb what's around you and do your own thing. Keep em guessing.

The reason is cause I found I love making music the most out of everything else. The genres in my post I genuinely want to make lol I do want people to listen to my music, and I think if I don't label it or advertise it right no one will see it, I also do want to make money but that is the secondary goal here, I shouldn't of mentioned money, people jumped the gun lol

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:46 pm

That's the spirit

BTW 3 years is no time at all in music. It took me longer than that to learn to play guitar.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:59 pm

So this is like the equivalent of changing your wardrobe every year so you stay in fashion.

Im guessing you look similar to this, only with more beard

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:01 pm

"three years and I still don't know what genre to produce, how the heck do you guys choose?"

Oh, You silly

It's not you who chose, the music will chose you. Maybe you have to wait some more time... years...

JerGoertz · Post by **JerGoertz** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:21 pm

Here's your genre: poo-step

You're welcome

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:23 pm

I have little time for genres. I understand their benefit as a way to help categorise/market something or provide a starting formula, but ultimately I don't like the idea of trying to fit into a predefined box.

Now, you have genres that you enjoy working in, so keep at it. There's nothing worse for your creative spirit than trying to make music that you're just not into. As others have said, if you start trying to fake it, you will fail. Your heart won't be in it and the people you're trying to impress will notice. Try to make the best music in these genres you can. Experiment and try to cross-pollenate them. Take some elements from one and add them to another. Push that for a bit and see if something exciting or interesting comes out. Aspire to be a leader, not a follower. I'm reading this out loud as I type it because I need to hear this as much as you

.

And as for Max Martin, just take a look at how long he's been around. The success he's had in the last number of years didn't just arrive out of nowhere.

HREQ · Post by **HREQ** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:27 pm

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:37 pm

Let's simplify this. Close your eyes and randomly pick one of the genres below. Focus on producing nothing but this genre for the next 7 years and you will be a superstar.

alternative screamo
lyrical banjo circus
wobbly baggy-punk-body music
ethereal-trance/christian-punk
tribal pastoral pipes
synth-pussy-rave
minimal opera
crooner G-tekno
geek pop-bossa nova
chill-porn-step
gangsta-gaze-doom-swing