Exponential Audio Nimbus Reverb

[nordickvr]

Tail suppression is nice, but indeed, nothing new about Nimbus. I'm hurrying back to Zynaptiq Adaptiverb. Still mystified.

Those are pretty different.
Nimbus is still belonging in the reverb's family kinf of fx, so to speak.
But the couple of twists it offers open up for some pretty neat experimentations while offering good options to be effective in all sort of standard use too.
I also think that CPU wise there will be no comparaison.
Exponential Audio high quality worth to be mentioned too.
All in all I think that this one could surprise!

[Mercado_Negro]

Nimbus is just a sort of PhoenixVerb 2. You can do everything PhoenixVerb does, it's based exactly on the same concept and sound (it actually has all PhoenixVerb presets). It just has a few new handy features like we see in other products when a company releases a second version of a previous iteration. Like bmanic I used to use complementary tools with PhoenixVerb to achieve what Nimbus can do: input filtering, tail suppression, reverb compression, saturation, tail pre-delay, etc. I think there's just one feature in Nimbus that couldn't be achieved before with other tools and PhoenixVerb, and that's early reflections patterns. Early reflections help to identify distance and positioning of elements so these new patterns open a few doors of possibilities.

[nordickvr]

"Nimbus is just a sort of PhoenixVerb 2...
"...I used to use complementary tools with PhoenixVerb to achieve what Nimbus can do: input filtering, tail suppression, reverb compression, saturation, tail pre-delay, etc. I think there's just one feature in Nimbus that couldn't be achieved before with other tools and PhoenixVerb, and that's early reflections patterns...

I totally agree with you.
Always a plus to have access to all those tweaking inside the plug-in itself though.
Anyway, anxious to give it a try.

[Mercado_Negro]

"Nimbus is just a sort of PhoenixVerb 2...
"...I used to use complementary tools with PhoenixVerb to achieve what Nimbus can do: input filtering, tail suppression, reverb compression, saturation, tail pre-delay, etc. I think there's just one feature in Nimbus that couldn't be achieved before with other tools and PhoenixVerb, and that's early reflections patterns...

I totally agree with you.
Always a plus to have access to all those tweaking inside the plug-in itself though.
Anyway, anxious to give it a try.

Of course, that's a real nice plus because you can simplify your processing chain and focus on just one plug-in which increases your productivity and speeds up the workflow. I'm telling you this from a real user's perspective. I've been using it for over two months and just recently decided to keep it as my one and only reverb because it unifies several approaches and techniques, and most importantly it does all that with a very low CPU load. I used PhoenixVerb quite a lot as well as R2 and while the latter is still necessary for me because it brings a different sound, kinda lexicon-ish, Nimbus have completely replaced PhoenixVerb for me.

Give the demo a try once it's out. If you use PhoenixVerb a lot and like to tweak your reverbs further with compression, saturation, decimators, etc., you'll surely see the value in Nimbus.

[aMUSEd]

I used PhoenixVerb quite a lot as well as R2 and while the latter is still necessary for me because it brings a different sound, kinda lexicon-ish, Nimbus have completely replaced PhoenixVerb for me.

Give the demo a try once it's out. If you use PhoenixVerb a lot and like to tweak your reverbs further with compression, saturation, decimators, etc., you'll surely see the value in Nimbus.

That was my point, if it largely or entirely replaces PhoenixVerb, even to the point of having the same presets, but just does a bit more then it's really PhoenixVerb 2 or PhoenixVerb + or whatever. I can only hope the upgrade path is very reasonable indeed.

[kmonkey]

I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

hm... but you said "Many of Michaels reverbs are very "samey" sounding.. or have a very specific type of Sound"

samey sounding = at least 2

or very specific sounding = at least another one (3)

but "many of" (which refers to the previous - at the very least - three) means not all of them, so = at least another one (4)

which logically means at least four altogether, and even then it would still seem like a strange statement...

sorry, bmanic, I usually really like enjoy your posts, but you'll have to admit that this one really doesn't make much sense...

Just what the hell....

Anyway - yes they do have sameish sound. Nothing weird they are from same developer which have his own taste for "good" sound. Personally nothing special when compared to Phoenixverb.

[zvenx]

If the sameish is both sound fantastic then I can understand, any other sameish has me scratching my head.
rsp

[Krakatau]

If the sameish is both sound fantastic then I can understand, any other sameish has me scratching my head.
rsp

Sameish Audio ...a new company in town !?

[zvenx]

indeed.
rsp

[comfortablynick]

Dang...tough crowd. I'm sure the upgrade offer will be very reasonable.

I also usually perform some of these extra tasks with other plugins, but having it all in the reverb is a huge boost to the workflow. The new ER patters are a big deal, too. There's also a second "plate" setting for the algorithm, which is something PhoenixVerb didn't have. The filtering is great and something I was missing from Phoenix, where only one output filter was available. I always bandlimit the signal on the reverb input, and now I can easily do that right inside of Nimbus.

The reverb delay is nice too. Sometimes I would use two instances of Phoenix or other 'verbs to get a delay between the ER and tail sections. I've been using this as my main reverb for the past couple of months and really have been loving it.

One thing I'm not sure if you can replicate with a separate plugin is the bit-depth setting. It depends on where the bit-reduction is occuring in the signal path I guess. This should be very exciting for all the guys who claim that old crappy converters are a vital part of the hardware reverb sound. Lol Now we can have the tails just disappear into a grainy haze of quantization noise.

[bmanic]

I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

hm... but you said "Many of Michaels reverbs are very "samey" sounding.. or have a very specific type of Sound"

samey sounding = at least 2

or very specific sounding = at least another one (3)

but "many of" (which refers to the previous - at the very least - three) means not all of them, so = at least another one (4)

which logically means at least four altogether, and even then it would still seem like a strange statement...

sorry, bmanic, I usually really like enjoy your posts, but you'll have to admit that this one really doesn't make much sense...

Haha.. yeah, have to agree with you here. The word "many" is definitely wrong. I know he created the Lexicon latest line of hardware and software as well but those are definitely different. I did honestly just mean his own brand of reverbs.

Anyhow, you are right about the choice of words. My opinion still hasn't changed. The 3 reverb offerings he has (technically you could consider the surround stuff 4 and 5 due to their slightly more robust editing features) are pretty similar sounding to my ears.

[bmanic]

I do mean his two plug-ins.. now soon to be 3 plug-ins. So I disagree then. R2 is definitely not as different from Phoenix as say VVV from Valhalla Room.. in my opinion.

Nimbus seems to be more of the same.. though to be fair, he even says it's based on Phoenix. So yeah.. I'm not seeing the value here.

Hmmm

I often agree with your 'ears'.. Not this time.
I find R2 and phoenixverb very very different, I actually after buying both for PC tried to see if I could get away with only one on the mac to save me money but ended up buying both.
I haven't found an instance where they sound alike, or that I could substitute one for the other without radically changing the sound.
I use phoenixverb all the time, because I sense it more than hear it..That is it sounds very natural, it blends in the background more to me, and its when I turn it off I hear it more than when I turn it on.....
Whereas R2 sounds more like a Lexicon. I use it when I want to Hear the reverb. I don't want it to blend in, I want to hear the presence of the reverb.
rsp

I know many people seem to have this opinion. I'm not one of them. I bought only Phoenix verb exactly because I thought R2 sounds like "Phoenix + modulation + some minor other differences". I can't explain it.. they are "same family" in my opinion. I may be wrong but I wouldn't shy away from a bet that they are pretty similar when it comes to the underlying technique used to create them. If I'd have to compare.. they are like two different compressors built with similar components but different built in timing constants and tolerances.

But anyhow.. I can definitely agree to disagree. It's all very subjective in the end.

Cheers!
bManic

[bmanic]

If the sameish is both sound fantastic then I can understand, any other sameish has me scratching my head.
rsp

They definitely sound good! All of them. I just don't need 3 (or 5 if you count the surround versions as their own products) of them. I'm happy with one.

[Beatworld]

They definitely sound good! All of them. I just don't need 3 (or 5 if you count the surround versions as their own products) of them. I'm happy with one.

After living with the Nimbus betas for a few months (and having the other 2) I think that anyone, who currently has none of them and only wants 1, should definitely get Nimbus

[comfortablynick]

They definitely sound good! All of them. I just don't need 3 (or 5 if you count the surround versions as their own products) of them. I'm happy with one.

After living with the Nimbus betas for a few months (and having the other 2) I think that anyone, who currently has none of them and only wants 1, should definitely get Nimbus

No question! Nimbus is definitely the one I'd pick if I could only have 1 of the Exponential Audio plugins. I love the sound of R2 as well so I'm glad I don't have to pick!