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dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:35 am

The above mentioned things + the bug fixes would be cool.
The FM8 is the only synth in my stuff that don't have bigger gui.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:40 am

Autobot wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
Autobot wrote:FM8 is already a superb synth and still the best FM-Synth and one of the best overall synths out there. However FM8 seems to be abandoned by NI. NI "just" did service updates for years. A overhaul of FM8 seems to be urgent. Currently it's not worth the price imo but when one get it on sale or 2nd hand for some bucks you will never regret.
this --> "FM8 is already a superb synth and still the best FM-Synth and one of the best overall synths out there." and then this ?? ->> "Currently it's not worth the price" ?? [...]
Context and correct reading my friend. 149€ for an (possibly) abandoned synth is too much 89€ would be fine I think. However. This ->
Autobot wrote: Currently it's not worth the price imo but when one get it on sale or 2nd hand for some bucks you will never regret

Noo, no no..you're actually saying it is (your P.O.V.) the best FM synth.....and one of the best synths out there...context?? Where? You're just stating that it is the best FM synth and maybe even one of the best softsynths. In that context the price is legit. And i do feel the price is legit, to be honest. Because it is a fine synth. One of the better FM synths for sure.

Maybe you mean it is dated and therfor the price doesn't "feel" right??

Autobot · Post by **Autobot** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:55 am

exmatproton wrote:
Autobot wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
Autobot wrote:FM8 is already a superb synth and still the best FM-Synth and one of the best overall synths out there. However FM8 seems to be abandoned by NI. NI "just" did service updates for years. A overhaul of FM8 seems to be urgent. Currently it's not worth the price imo but when one get it on sale or 2nd hand for some bucks you will never regret.
this --> "FM8 is already a superb synth and still the best FM-Synth and one of the best overall synths out there." and then this ?? ->> "Currently it's not worth the price" ?? [...]
Context and correct reading my friend. 149€ for an (possibly) abandoned synth is too much 89€ would be fine I think. However. This ->
Autobot wrote: Currently it's not worth the price imo but when one get it on sale or 2nd hand for some bucks you will never regret
Noo, no no..you're actually saying it is (your P.O.V.) the best FM synth.....and one of the best synths out there...context?? Where? You're just stating that it is the best FM synth and maybe even one of the best softsynths. In that context the price is legit. And i do feel the price is legit, to be honest. Because it is a fine synth. One of the better FM synths for sure.

Maybe you mean it is dated and therfor the price doesn't "feel" right??

You almost right (english is not my native language). You get to the heart of it. For a dated synth (handling only) its too pricey.

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:04 pm

I think we should be happy that NI did not yet retire FM8.

Concerning GUI size:

When designing patches I'm working in the standalone mode which uses a bigger Gui (it uses the windows DPI scaling feature).

Autobot · Post by **Autobot** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:00 pm

Chris-S wrote:I think we should be happy that NI did not yet retire FM8.

Concerning GUI size:

When designing patches I'm working in the standalone mode which uses a bigger Gui (it uses the windows DPI scaling feature).

Do not work on my system win7. Is this exclusive for newer OS?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:41 pm

As great as a new FM would be, I don't think it's too realistic to expect one. There are certainly no signs that there is anything coming in 2017 or anytime soon.

But one can always hope.

Autobot · Post by **Autobot** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:46 pm

wagtunes wrote:As great as a new FM would be, I don't think it's too realistic to expect one. There are certainly no signs that there is anything coming in 2017 or anytime soon.

But one can always hope.

We do not need a new FM just a lil overhaul of FM8

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:47 pm

Autobot wrote:
wagtunes wrote:As great as a new FM would be, I don't think it's too realistic to expect one. There are certainly no signs that there is anything coming in 2017 or anytime soon.

But one can always hope.
We do not need a new FM just a lil overhaul of FM8

Well, I'm not quite sure that's likely too. When was the last time any updates were made to FM8?

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:44 pm

Autobot wrote: Do not work on my system win7. Is this exclusive for newer OS?

I have Windows 7.
Here a MS tech article which explains DPI scaling:

https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/kb/2900023

So, the disadvantage of this technique is that the GUI gets blurred.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:30 pm

Autobot wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:FM8 is good as is it is. Data import bugs aside I see no reason to update it and add more complexity. Like with the hardware FM series don't think there's that many people who have actually bothered to learn to program it anyway.
No one want more complexity.

Speak for yourself. I'd give NI money for FM9 that came closer to FS1R territory and incorporated ZDF Filters and more flexible effects.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:35 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
Autobot wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:FM8 is good as is it is. Data import bugs aside I see no reason to update it and add more complexity. Like with the hardware FM series don't think there's that many people who have actually bothered to learn to program it anyway.
No one want more complexity.
Speak for yourself. I'd give NI money for FM9 that came closer to FS1R territory and incorporated ZDF Filters and more flexible effects.

Shieet if someone made FS1R... been waiting forever, one can hope.

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:55 pm

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:10 pm

egbert101 wrote:I've heard rumours that Arturia might be making a DX7 emulation. If they get it right like the Synclavier, then it would be a bit of nice competition against the FM8.

I'd be okay with that as long as it had at least a slightly more friendly UI than the DX7.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:22 pm

I don't know what's happened to NI. Their VSTis are out of date already. Only reactor stuff is going strong. But reactor stuff is CPU hungry and don't attract everybody. While they found their "spot" framework, customers don't care much. But that's about VST. They do good hardware, but that's a whole different story.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:32 pm

egbert101 wrote:I've heard rumours that Arturia might be making a DX7 emulation. If they get it right like the Synclavier, then it would be a bit of nice competition against the FM8.

Even though they add things, they are too purist with respect to architecture, and at the same time not purist enough with respect to sound quality, that I don't expect much from them. They might surprise me, but the fact that they want to call it a DX something gives me my doubts.

This is one of those areas where I really don't understand the point of pure emulations.

FM8 in year 2017?