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pheeleep wrote:Check the demo of Linplug Saxlab
For me it is definitely the best.

And it was made by Luigi Felici, also owner of NuSofting, creator of Modelonia, Strings Dream Synth, etc..
:tu:

He is also the creator of another wonderful sax VST:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php

(in french)
http://www.samplemodeling.com/fr/products_mssaxs.php

It works without Kontakt, having its own engine. But incidentally there is also another product by the same company, this time for Kontakt (and compatible Kontakt Player), this one:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_saxes.php
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pheeleep wrote:Check the demo of Linplug Saxlab
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I like Saxlab a lot.
Did a track with the demo once.
If you want an authentic sax, learn sax. 8)

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wagtunes wrote:
pheeleep wrote:Check the demo of Linplug Saxlab
Listened. Nope.
Not listen to audio demos. Play with the plugin demo ;)
Play it by ear

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pheeleep wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
pheeleep wrote:Check the demo of Linplug Saxlab
Listened. Nope.
Not listen to audio demos. Play with the plugin demo ;)
Don't have to. Don't like the sound. I'm not going to demo a whole bunch of saxophones to MAYBE find something decent.

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574X wrote:I like Saxlab a lot.
Did a track with the demo once.
If you want an authentic sax, learn sax. 8)
Hey you're funny. Don't quit your day job. Maybe we should tell everybody who doesn't play a real instrument to learn a real instrument and we'll just shut down all the sample based and physical modeling based instruments made. It'll sure leave less stuff to weed through.

I'm hoping something "acceptable" exists. MODO bass is a perfect example of a modeled bass that is as good as the real thing. So certainly it's possible that a sax exists as well.

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I listened to the particular sax solo that you want to emulate. I cannot imagine it would be possible to do this without a MIDI wind controller, no matter how good the vst is.

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ravasb wrote:I listened to the particular sax solo that you want to emulate. I cannot imagine it would be possible to do this without a MIDI wind controller, no matter how good the vst is.
Think about what a wind controller does. It just sends MIDI info to trigger whatever triggers the "growl" via using your breath. This could easily be assigned to a slider, pressure pad or something. As long as they sound is there, it's possible to do. Heck, I've seen wind controller MIDI data. Worst case scenario, you draw it by hand. Tedious, but possible.

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wagtunes wrote:
ravasb wrote:I listened to the particular sax solo that you want to emulate. I cannot imagine it would be possible to do this without a MIDI wind controller, no matter how good the vst is.
Think about what a wind controller does. It just sends MIDI info to trigger whatever triggers the "growl" via using your breath. This could easily be assigned to a slider, pressure pad or something. As long as they sound is there, it's possible to do. Heck, I've seen wind controller MIDI data. Worst case scenario, you draw it by hand. Tedious, but possible.
I play sax and have a wind controller. It might be possible with a lot of automation drawing and three hands, but that is a deceptively complex solo to get the tone and nuances convincing.

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ravasb wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
ravasb wrote:I listened to the particular sax solo that you want to emulate. I cannot imagine it would be possible to do this without a MIDI wind controller, no matter how good the vst is.
Think about what a wind controller does. It just sends MIDI info to trigger whatever triggers the "growl" via using your breath. This could easily be assigned to a slider, pressure pad or something. As long as they sound is there, it's possible to do. Heck, I've seen wind controller MIDI data. Worst case scenario, you draw it by hand. Tedious, but possible.
I play sax and have a wind controller. It might be possible with a lot of automation drawing and three hands, but that is a deceptively complex solo to get the tone and nuances convincing.
But it is possible. But not if the source material can't make the sounds in the first place. So let's get that part right (the right source material) and then I'll worry about what I need for performance. So far, I'm not hearing the source material to make this work.

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Sample Modeling - the Sax brothers.

http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_saxes.php

it's a kontakt instrument. it's absolutely friggin amazing. You'll be using the expression pedal a lot.

they have some non-kontakt instruments, too, but I never checked them out, as I prefer using Kontakt.

but seriously, their instruments are amazing. easy to control, totally authentic sound.

-M

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mholloway wrote:Sample Modeling - the Sax brothers.

http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_saxes.php

it's a kontakt instrument. it's absolutely friggin amazing. You'll be using the expression pedal a lot.

they have some non-kontakt instruments, too, but I never checked them out, as I prefer using Kontakt.

but seriously, their instruments are amazing. easy to control, totally authentic sound.

-M
As I said above, you have to buy all 3 (comes out to over $300) and all I need is the tenor sax. I'm not paying over $300 for a tenor sax.

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Maybe a little out of thread but:

Thank you blackwinny for the info, did not know that luigi was behind saxlab too :o

I love that one too, hope they will sale it one day like octopus :hihi: , actually its just too expensive for me, did not use sax so much. But I remember when I tested it, lots of different sounds and just easy to use.

:hug:

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wagtunes wrote:
pheeleep wrote:Check the demo of Linplug Saxlab
Listened. Nope.
wagtunes wrote:
574X wrote:I like Saxlab a lot.
Did a track with the demo once.
If you want an authentic sax, learn sax. 8)
Hey you're funny. Don't quit your day job. Maybe we should tell everybody who doesn't play a real instrument to learn a real instrument and we'll just shut down all the sample based and physical modeling based instruments made. It'll sure leave less stuff to weed through.

I'm hoping something "acceptable" exists. MODO bass is a perfect example of a modeled bass that is as good as the real thing. So certainly it's possible that a sax exists as well.
:roll:
Yeah it's funny because it's true. :hihi:

I agree, Wagtunes. That bass vst can expertly give you most of the illusion of authentic bass. :lol:

You'll understand and appreciate how one of those two instruments is much easier to emulate, if you ever play either of those real instruments, play in any remotely traditional bands/ensembles, or work as a session musician. :tu:

Great saxophone players blatantly demonstrate the shortcomings of modern sample-based/physical modeling technology, specifically as it relates to the most expressive, complex physical instruments and a lifetime of expertise. :dog:
:lol:

Cool thread though. I always wanted a great, fake sax.

Paying a talented, struggling musician to record for you instantly online, for the price of a meal doesn't count.

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Probably get shot for saying this but the Club Saxes are the dirtiest saxes I've ever heard. The Tenor has a nice gritty growl on it. It's free and delete is easy. Need Kontakt however.

http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com/2 ... ction.html
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