KVR Audio

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:12 pm

chk071 wrote:
mgw38 wrote:Steinberg wraps VST3s as far as I know.
That'd be weird considering they're responsible for the plugin format, and the SDK. Where did you read that? Would be surprising for me, if they didn't support it natively.

I could be wrong but removing the vst3 plugins does break all Steinberg plugins on my system (Mac, Ableton).
I remember reading somewhere deep within a Steinberg support document that this is because all plugin versions of Steinberg plugins need to access the vst3.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:15 pm

Ah... may be true under Mac OS indeed, IDK.

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:23 pm

mgw38 wrote:I could be wrong but removing the vst3 plugins does break all Steinberg plugins on my system (Mac, Ableton).
I remember reading somewhere deep within a Steinberg support document that this is because all plugin versions of Steinberg plugins need to access the vst3.

You're right. I just opened up the Halion Sonic AU and it contains a link to the VST, not the VST. It turns out after closer inspection, Arturia now wraps the VST3 into an AU, though they seem to pop the actual file into the package rather than a symbolic link or alias so it seems to survive the version in the VST3 folder itself being killed or moved elsewhere.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:09 pm

martinjuenke wrote: With Native Instruments I'm cautious because I think their Components are "wrapper" of their VST.

No. For instance VSL has now made VST available to plug into VE Pro. They're simply two different plugins. Logic is loading AU Native Instrument items. They're in different folders as you've probably now seen. One is not a reference to the other either way. Also, NI's are not VST3.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:17 pm

Gamma-UT wrote:
mgw38 wrote:I could be wrong but removing the vst3 plugins does break all Steinberg plugins on my system (Mac, Ableton).
I remember reading somewhere deep within a Steinberg support document that this is because all plugin versions of Steinberg plugins need to access the vst3.
You're right. I just opened up the Halion Sonic AU and it contains a link to the VST, not the VST. It turns out after closer inspection, Arturia now wraps the VST3 into an AU, though they seem to pop the actual file into the package rather than a symbolic link or alias so it seems to survive the version in the VST3 folder itself being killed or moved elsewhere.

Yeah, I don't think Steinberg makes real AU plugins.

VST3 plugins on MAC LogicPro necessary?