KVR Audio

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:44 pm

sidhu quoth
half of them i dint kow existed... no one saz red hat.. so thats out...

Actually no_signal said Fedora, which is the 'new' Red Hat' distro. But he didnt make that clear.

Also rabbyt.. missed ure post the last time... but i dint quite get ure swap drive thingi.. anywaz, baz arnt available here.. and i dont have cash for another harddisk. Im buying monitors !!!

Fair enough if you've got no dosh. All I means was that you can put two drives in removable cages, and hook up the controller as normal. To swap which system you boot into, phsyically swap the drives. Thats about the best possible protection you can give your DAW installation

a free version would be nice. from what i recall i had to install Linux on a linboot partition... and make another swap or something... still stand ?

Pretty much, although the installers at much more firnedly than they used to be.
Or you can go for

and can linux read FAT/NTFS partitions ??? it wud be nice if it cant.

It can, but you can disable that. Depends on the distro, tho. Probably most come with that stuff compiled in. If you recompile the kernel (which is easier than it sounds) you can remove it completely.

also i have no intreast in programming or stuff.. so i wud like an easy version. Withought too many frills... when (soon) i purchase a pr soundcard... will that play bak audio.. ???

Depends on the soundcard whether there are drivers. Best check first.

oh... and does KVR look equally good on Linux ????

Not if you use Lynx

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:51 pm

pardon me, I took a wrong turn & fell down the rabbit hole

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:01 pm

I've always preferred Debian Linux (on which Knoppix is based) because of its application and package manager. It makes it incredibly easy to update your OS and all your applications with one command (stay on top of security updates). It even offers a bleeding-edge branch if that's your thing. But Knoppix is a great way to get your feet wet from the bootable CD without having to format anything and install Linux just yet. If you decide you like it there are tutorials for doing a hard disk install of it.

Edit: I wouldn't trust XP's built-in firewall. Although it's a step in the right direction, like everything else from Microsoft it offers insufficient security. I personally use McAfee's firewall but any of the other commercial software firewalls should be sufficient for keeping things in and out.

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:03 pm

goodie.. this is exiting... ive been cheking out.. onli9ne there in mandrakelinux http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en-us/

and Mandrake softhome
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/

mandrake softhome seem be giving out a precompiled version of linux... thats easy to use and all... they say it's an alternate to windows etc.. they even have a beginners pack... but there selling it.. and i dont see no downloads...

now im gonna be very honest here... i was hoping to save enough for a legit version of XP.. i dont think i can fit in money for another OS with ease. But if i need to do it ill do it...

So.

opinion seems to be that Linux is the only way to go. No one supported a dual XP partition.

If Linux, Mandrake? Or is there something better.

If mandrake where do i get it from. ? Id ofcourse like a easy versoin... (and free)

i rember all the /man commands i used to spend the whole night with... dont wanna get into it again. Then i was full of josh.

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:06 pm

think mandrakelinux 10.0 is free. But i need to be a club member or something... they do ask for doantions (i think) fair enough... waiting for ure decision.

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:08 pm

shit.. the membership costs money... hehe...

I remember we got this whole bundle of red hat 6.0 on CD with some computer magazine.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:45 pm

Nobody suggested a dual-boot because they probably didn't read the thread once it got into Linux-land.

Linux is a great option, but I never had any success with it myself. I have a retail box of Mandrake somewhere... I don't remember, but I think it was 9. After messing around with it for a few days, I realized that I didn't care to reboot to use the internet, which I do fairly regularly.

I dunno what your typical usage is, but I'll go out on a limb here and be the pariah and admit that my computer is a 'contaminated' mess because I don't even bother with dual-boot. I have a (free) anti-virus that I trust, and the packet-forwarding capabilities of all newer routers keep out minor attempts at intrusions... and if anyone wants to make a major attempt to hack me, they're welcome to it.

The point is, I'm much happier being able to simply open my browser when I need to get questions answered here, or if there's a soundfont or sample I want to download, and then immediately switch back into my recording app and use it.

I suspect many of us are in the same boat. I was happy with a 4-track machine for years, so the drawbacks of using an 'all-purpose' machine for my DAW are only drawbacks relative to the potential strength of a custom-tailored, pristine system; they're not drawbacks compared to the limitations of a 4-track that I was faced with before, you know?

That said, and going to my original point-- if you're happy and comfortable in XP, and you'd rather just do a dual-boot, it's absolutely a viable option.

Just another perspective.

Greg

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:13 pm

Actually you dont need to be a member to download Mandrake.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3

Click on 'planning to register' and you'll get the list of mirror sites...

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:52 pm

I am a long time Mandrake user, since 7.0, and would recommend it as well.

Other distributions to look at include [url="http://www.gentoo.org/]gentoo[/url][/url]

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:57 pm

progfusion74 wrote:I am a long time Mandrake user, since 7.0, and would recommend it as well.

Other distributions to look at include [url="http://www.gentoo.org/]gentoo[/url][/url]

Gentoo was made by the devil.

Groet, Erik

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:00 pm

tetraplan wrote:
progfusion74 wrote:I am a long time Mandrake user, since 7.0, and would recommend it as well.

Other distributions to look at include [url="http://www.gentoo.org/]gentoo[/url][/url]
Gentoo was made by the devil.

Groet, Erik

May I ask why? I have only spent limited time with it (Mandrake at home, Red Hat workstation at work), but some people I know absolutely swear by it. All of them are developers, so that might have something to do with it

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:05 am

Gentoo was made by the devil.

Groet, Erik

Im intreasted !

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:21 am

progfusion74 wrote:
tetraplan wrote:
progfusion74 wrote:I am a long time Mandrake user, since 7.0, and would recommend it as well.

Other distributions to look at include [url="http://www.gentoo.org/]gentoo[/url][/url]
Gentoo was made by the devil.

Groet, Erik
May I ask why? I have only spent limited time with it (Mandrake at home, Red Hat workstation at work), but some people I know absolutely swear by it. All of them are developers, so that might have something to do with it

I think it does.
When I was looking for The Perfect Linux I came across comments like "after 37 installs it was running like a dream".
And no RPMs, which some users thought was a Very Good Thing. Me, I like proper installers. Also, I dont want to compile every last component. There's many components in *nix.
It runs on just about every platform and configuration. It just takes some work to get there.
Nice for some. Not for n00bs (ie. me).

Groet, Erik

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:28 am

Nobody suggested a dual-boot because they probably didn't read the thread once it got into Linux-land.

Linux is a great option, but I never had any success with it myself. I have a retail box of Mandrake somewhere... I don't remember, but I think it was 9. After messing around with it for a few days, I realized that I didn't care to reboot to use the internet, which I do fairly regularly.

I dunno what your typical usage is, but I'll go out on a limb here and be the pariah and admit that my computer is a 'contaminated' mess because I don't even bother with dual-boot. I have a (free) anti-virus that I trust, and the packet-forwarding capabilities of all newer routers keep out minor attempts at intrusions... and if anyone wants to make a major attempt to hack me, they're welcome to it.

The point is, I'm much happier being able to simply open my browser when I need to get questions answered here, or if there's a soundfont or sample I want to download, and then immediately switch back into my recording app and use it.

I suspect many of us are in the same boat. I was happy with a 4-track machine for years, so the drawbacks of using an 'all-purpose' machine for my DAW are only drawbacks relative to the potential strength of a custom-tailored, pristine system; they're not drawbacks compared to the limitations of a 4-track that I was faced with before, you know?

That said, and going to my original point-- if you're happy and comfortable in XP, and you'd rather just do a dual-boot, it's absolutely a viable option.

Just another perspective.

Greg

Very nice.... id like to experiment once again with Linux.. it's something that alwaz intrigues me... open source. Maybe i will... and then there is alwaz the XP dualboot option to go in for.... just that id like to be able to shut of my audio disks to that partition.

and also the forewall issue.. do i need Norton ?

Sidhu

i got net