Damn, this is good news! This is really good news! Griels, I'd love to hear what you can do with Mr.Ray. As you said this one's a hell of a machine. (Here's a tiny itsy-bitsy snippet of what I did with it today: http://www.powerjams.de/psynus_-_the_trainee.ogg)griels wrote:By the way, yet more tunes in the pipeline.
Wanna make a good Housebeat!
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- KVRist
- 238 posts since 23 Jul, 2001
WinXP * CubaseSX3 * Intel Core2Duo6800 * 2GB RAM * M-Audio 24/96
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
great thanks to crackbaby! just as you told! i put a clap and a snare over the basedrum and schwup... i got it! just a bit compression and distortion over the noise a more strongly style! many thanks thats it!
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- KVRAF
- 3964 posts since 31 Aug, 2003 from In a foreign town, in a foreign land
For that jackin' sound: claps on all fours.
//reads again: that looks really weird.
Open hats, maybe preceded by closed ones. Syncopating snare, preferably 909, but a punchy acoustic one can work wonders, too. More syncopation: rimshot, 707 cowbell, whaterver you want.
Try RZ-1 samples, too, they're very cool (in a cheesy 80s way). You'll recognise those raspy hats.
Groet, Erik
//reads again: that looks really weird.
Open hats, maybe preceded by closed ones. Syncopating snare, preferably 909, but a punchy acoustic one can work wonders, too. More syncopation: rimshot, 707 cowbell, whaterver you want.
Try RZ-1 samples, too, they're very cool (in a cheesy 80s way). You'll recognise those raspy hats.
Groet, Erik
Pop music delenda est.
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 20 Aug, 2003 from Durham, NC
some house tips:
use the "swing" function on your sequencer (or 16t).
use compressor on the kick.
use a light flange on your hihats.
don't be afraid of claps. just don't overdo it.
click here for inspiration.
use the "swing" function on your sequencer (or 16t).
use compressor on the kick.
use a light flange on your hihats.
don't be afraid of claps. just don't overdo it.
click here for inspiration.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Keule,
The reason you arent getting the results you want is because you arent looking for the right sound sources. Have a think back to where these sounds originated - where did the sounds come from, what gear were the producers using? When you think about it like this, its much easier to see how sounds are made.
In the case of house music, producers used sampled breaks combined with electronic drums. The breaks were taken from old groove records and were very dirty, hence the vintage sound of many modern house beats. To add to this, sample memory was very limited so most were done in 8bit. So, for starters get yourself a nice collection of break beats. Chop these up into basic kick, hat, snare loops at a suitable tempo. Then, layer on some electronic drums. Again, think about what the guys had at the time - think 808, 909! Layer a 909 kick on 1,2,3 and 4. Then maybe a 909 o'hat on the off beat. By now you should be getting somewhere. To finish off your beats, you need to give them some assistence 'gelling'. The old producers would compress the beats as a whole (not individually) and run them hot through analogue desks. This helps achieve a punchy and fat sound. Try using a compressor like Sonalksis, and a warmer like PSPVintage on the drum buss. With a bit of luck you should now have proper house beats galore! If not, buy 'House Essentials' - 700+ loops created in this way, loads of single hits and other sounds.
The main thing that will prevent you from getting the desired sound is thinking to clean. Today we can make squeeky clean, sample accurate beats easy peesy, but that isnt how these sounds were made!
The reason you arent getting the results you want is because you arent looking for the right sound sources. Have a think back to where these sounds originated - where did the sounds come from, what gear were the producers using? When you think about it like this, its much easier to see how sounds are made.
In the case of house music, producers used sampled breaks combined with electronic drums. The breaks were taken from old groove records and were very dirty, hence the vintage sound of many modern house beats. To add to this, sample memory was very limited so most were done in 8bit. So, for starters get yourself a nice collection of break beats. Chop these up into basic kick, hat, snare loops at a suitable tempo. Then, layer on some electronic drums. Again, think about what the guys had at the time - think 808, 909! Layer a 909 kick on 1,2,3 and 4. Then maybe a 909 o'hat on the off beat. By now you should be getting somewhere. To finish off your beats, you need to give them some assistence 'gelling'. The old producers would compress the beats as a whole (not individually) and run them hot through analogue desks. This helps achieve a punchy and fat sound. Try using a compressor like Sonalksis, and a warmer like PSPVintage on the drum buss. With a bit of luck you should now have proper house beats galore! If not, buy 'House Essentials' - 700+ loops created in this way, loads of single hits and other sounds.
The main thing that will prevent you from getting the desired sound is thinking to clean. Today we can make squeeky clean, sample accurate beats easy peesy, but that isnt how these sounds were made!