Cheap vs Expensive Headphones

[Aloysius]

Cheap Headphones are less expensive
Expensive Headphones are less cheap

[Apratim]

Hey there
Just thought I would present my views on headphones
And being an owner of a sr 850 in my experience these headphones are a bit misleading for being a studio reference
A studio headphone should be flat but these are a bit bright or I should say the high frequency are a bit over the bass and mid
Other wise the rest frequency is flats as a board

Edit :what I feel when I make my bassstep music some may say bass is overwhelming but I think only the high are a bit high

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

i am totally lost when hear words 'STUDIO' and 'PRO' these days...not sure that there is flat headphones at all - SR850 are nice for everyday,agree not very flat, but when combine with SR950 or other man can do relatively decent mix :):)

[Zexila]

These days I would just get any Morphit supported cans I can afford, easy as that.

https://www.toneboosters.com/tb_morphit_v1.html

List of supported headphones:

Generic studio reference,
Generic flat to ears,
Generic ear bud,
Generic HiFi,
Generic studio loudspeaker,
Generic commute,
Dummy head diffuse field,
1More Triple Drivers,
Aiaiai TMA1,
Aiaiai TMA1 studio,
Apple EarPods,
Apple EarBuds (iPod),
AKG K1000,
AKG K240,
AKG K240mkII,
AKG K240 Studio,
AGK K271mk2,
AKG K3003 grey,
AKG K450,
AKG K550,
AKG K601,
AKG K612,
AKG K701,
AKG K702,
AKG K712,
AKG K812,
AKG Q350,
AKG Q460,
AKG Q701,
Audeze LCD2r2,
Audeze LCD-3,
Audeze LCDX,
Audeze LCDX-C,
Audeze Sine,
AudioTechnica ATH ANC23,
Audiotechnica ATH AD500,
AudioTechnica ATH AD700,
AudioTechnica ATH AD900,
AudioTechnica ATH M20x,
AudioTechnica ATH M40x,
AudioTechnica ATH M50x,
AudioTechnica ATH M70x,
AudioTechnica ATH MSR7,
AudioTechnica ATH R70x,
Beats executive,
Beats urBeats,
Behringer HPM1000,
Byerdynamic Custom One Pro (linear bass setting),
Beyerdynamic DT150,
Beyerdynamic DT250,
Beyerdynamic DT770,
Beyerdynamic DT880,
Beyerdynamic DT990,
Beyerdynamic T1,
Beyerdynamic T5,
Beyerdynamic T50,
Beyerdynamic T70,
Blue Lola,
Bose QuietComfort QC15,
Bose QuietComfort QC20,
Bose QuietComfort QC25,
Bose QuietComfort QC35,
Brainwavz Delta,
Brainwavz M2,
Brainwavz R3,
Brainwavz S0,
Brainwavz S1,
Brainwavz S5,
Denon AHC360,
Denon AHC560R,
Denon AHC710,
Denon AHD600,
Denon AHD1001,
Denon AHD1100,
Denon AHD2000,
Denon AHD5000,
Denon AHD7000,
Denon AHD7100,
Etymotic ER4P,
Etymotic ER4S,
Etymotic MC3 / MC5,
Focal Spirit Pro,
Fostex T50RP,
Grado PS500,
Grado PS1000,
Grado SR125,
Grado SR225,
Grado SR325,
Grado SR60,
Grado SR80,
Hifiman HE350,
Hifiman HE400,
Hifiman HE5,
Hifiman HE500,
Hifiman HE6,
Koss UR20,
KRK KNS6400,
KRK KNS8400,
Massdrop HD6xx,
Oppo PM1
Oppo PM3
Panasonic HJE120 ergofit,
Panasonic RPHC200,
Panasonic RPHC800,
Panasonic RPTCM 125A,
Philips Fidelio M2L,
Philips Fidelio S1,
Philips Fidelio S2,
Philips Fidelio X1,
Philips Fidelio X2,
Philips SHQ1200 ActionFit,
Philips SHP9500,
Pioneer HDJ500,
Pioneer HDJ1000,
Pioneer HDJ2000,
Pioneer SE-M290,
Pioneer SE-A1000,
Sennheiser HD201,
Sennheiser HD202,
Sennheiser HD218,
Sennheiser HD219,
Sennheiser HD25-1 II,
Sennheiser HD280,
Sennheiser HD239,
Sennheiser HD380,
Sennheiser HD449,
Sennheiser HD518,
Sennheiser HD558,
Sennheiser HD595,
Sennheiser HD598,
Sennheiser HD599,
Sennheiser HD600,
Sennheiser HD650,
Sennheiser HD668B,
Sennheiser HD800,
Sennheiser MX560,
Shure SE215,
Shure SE315,
Shure SE425,
Shure SE530,
Shure SE535,
Shure SE846 (blue, black, white),
Shure SRH1440,
Shure SRH1540,
Shure SRH1840,
Shure SRH440,
Shure SRH650DJ,
Shure SRH840,
Shure SRH940,
Skullcandy Mix Master,
Skullcandy Holua,
Skullcandy Aviator,
Skullcandy Hesh 2,
Sony MDR1000x,
Sony MDR7502,
Sony MDR7505,
Sony MDR7506,
Sony MDR7520,
Sony MDR7550,
Sony MDR V6,
Sony MDRV150,
Sony MDR ZX310 (AP),
Sony MDR ZX700,
Stax Lambda Pro,
Stax SR007,
Stax SR009,
Stax SR207,
Superlux HD668B,
Superlux HD681,
Ultrasone HFI450,
Ultrasone HFI780,
Ultrasone Pro2900,
Ultrasone Pro900,
Ultrasone Signature Pro,
Ultrasone Zino,
VModa Crossfade M100,
VModa Crossfade M80,
VModa XS,
VModa LP2,
Yamaha Pro 300,
Yamaha Pro 400,
Yamaha Pro 500

[Apratim]

Damm just found out that sonarworks had headphone profile for samson sr850

Seems like a good option

But its kinda bummer that they dont have for sr950...???

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

aside from the fact that THESE DAYS many people have been punched cause the way they talk,i prefer not to use calibration at all :)It's better to listen mix through different headphones and speakers...it's not my point,it's 'pro' and 'studio' gurus who said that

[Zexila]

Well, go on, buy as many pairs of cans as you desire, your problem really, I can trust one pair with Morphit more than many different ones without it.

[mgw38]

The best bang for your buck currently is the Monoprice Monolith series:

https://www.monoprice.com/pages/monolith

The use the same technology as the Hifiman or the 1000$+ Audeze but at a much, much cheaper price. They come very highly rated. Search for reviews.

If you need to go cheaper, you absolutely want to use either Morphit or Sonarworks. I used to be a big Sonarworks fan, but their reference plugin kept my CPU constantly busy to the point where I got concerned about overheating the system (I'm producing on a MacBook). The Morphit solution is not as perfect, but good enough and both much cheaper and easier on the CPU.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Well, go on, buy as many pairs of cans as you desire, your problem really, I can trust one pair with Morphit more than many different ones without it.

Maybe not 10 but if find 2-3 of 'right' for your production models - why don't start new topic about how useful this calibrating soft is,i am over use everything related to soft and prefer more hardware.There is cool guy who in youtube try any kind of headphones ,he has countless of them : Z Reviews

[Zexila]

Just pointed out better solution, you are free to stick with whatever works for you.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Monolith M1060 vs Sennheiser hd600 ?

[mgw38]

Monolith M1060 vs Sennheiser hd600 ?

Both good options. You can't really go wrong with either one. The Sennheiser seem to be on sale at the moment and they do have a Morphit profile which might actually make them more attractive right now. Both are open back, so be aware the people around you will be able to hear what you are doing.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Thanks for idea - Monolith M1060 sounds very impressive and the specs r interesting 2 :
Planar Drivers: Not your typical headphone driver! A planar magnetic driver is a flat membrane that is surrounded by magnets. When current is delivered, the membrane produces sound that has lower distortion, better bass, and pinpoint imaging that is usually not found in your typical headphone driver. The size of the driver in the Monolith M1060 is 106mm.

[UltraPortamento]

I'd advise caution buying inaccurate headphones and expecting them to be fixed with Morphit.

Even if we assume they can fix the frequency response of a set of headphones, it would still depend on the QC of the manufacturers to make cans that have a consistent frequency response. Or else it wouldn't line up with the correction. Hopefully it can fix some of the problem, and that the frequencies being compensated for aren't actually making the accuracy even worse.

[Zexila]

I'd advise caution buying inaccurate headphones and expecting them to be fixed with Morphit.

Please show me "accurate" ones?
Also what's the alternative for people that must make compromise and can't buy HD600 or more expensive cans, what do you actually advise about buying?

Even if we assume they can fix the frequency response of a set of headphones, it would still depend on the QC of the manufacturers to make cans that have a consistent frequency response. Or else it wouldn't line up with the correction. Hopefully it can fix some of the problem, and that the frequencies being compensated for aren't actually making the accuracy even worse.

It doesn't make it any worse than it is and it wouldn't on long run even if that happened, you have control over how much correction you apply also, so it's moot point.