What's your impression on S1 4 as a composer's toolbox?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm in a similar boat. I love the Studio One workflow and how intuitive it is, but I recently bought Cubase 9.5 and have been starting new projects in Cubase for some of the reasons outlined above. Cubase just does certain things Studio One doesn't: automatic tempo mapping, Input Transformer/Logical Editor, Score Editor, more advanced Drum Editor (not upside down for one thing), built-in way to manage articulations, MPE support (including polyphonic aftertouch), etc. On the audio side, I prefer to work in Studio One, but when it comes to MIDI, Cubase is just far more mature though Studio One is [very] slowly closing the gap. One place on the MIDI side where Studio One has the edge though is remote controlling plugins. Cubase is awful at this with their 8 Quick Controls (I'd love to tell Stienberg where they can stick their 8 Quick Controls). It's shocking that they haven't come up with a better way to map plugins to controllers via the host.

If all things were equal from a high-level feature set perspective, I'd use Studio One due to the inuitiveness and faster workflow. Currently though, any project with a fair amount of MIDI work is just going to begin in Cubase due to the feature set.

[InLight-Tone]

@ Funkybot: My thoughts exactly!

[THE INTRANCER]

Having tried out Cubase a month or so ago and as I mentioned in another thread that focuses on this area...I found tempo drawing to be very restrictive or rather clumsy, even with vector point implementation. The way that they have implemented the new vector tempo mapping in the latest update of version of Studio One 4, is just a hell of a lot better.. more accurate, as well as more creative, and it's even available in the free Prime version. Want to reverse, flip, stretch or squash or a combination of these points, on the fly ? Just use the transformation tool..whilst every point is given a value, and detailed value from the pop-up down to tenths or hundredths.

[beatmangler443]

If your doing film it's been talked about 100000 times that Cubase would be the better option. Your beating a dead horse. Cubase is very feature rich, but it terms of workflow/hardware integration/better all around program (songwriting/producing/mixing/mastering) Studio One wins. Especially that its 2018 and you have a newer generation of engineers/music creators who are looking for something simple and great work flow, As well a affordable fun hardware to integrate with their products like the faderport, atom, and i expect a midi controller. You can't make Studio One or any other DAW something that it's not.

[jancivil]

I never had a need to use the Quick Controls or VST Controls until lately and I wanted to make a controller more friendly than being a fake Mackie Universal (which was the way it's set up to do, Korg Nano2) and it's a PITA. It's something from legacy they have never got the hint to rework. But most things MIDi just do their thing and there is no setup. I kind of think the need for setup is itself ancient history, but I bought this stupid thing.

"workflows/better all around" is pretty subjective. I'm using MPE now and Cubendo has it sussed. Audio editing is a big thing for me on top of MIDI (the audio I generate myself unless it's foley) and I have no real reason to look around. I just wanted to see what the fuss was about and all I had was a rather weak laptop. S1 3 was rather intuitive, I wasn't wowed by it though. Occasionally I do music for picture aaaaand... nuff said.