Releases for 2020..... Ableton, Apple, Presonus

[Tj Shredder]

Bitwigs Grid is hands down the best Modular I have seen so far, and as its in its infancy I expect it to grow in 2020. I do love VCV-rack, but its a different mind set, more the old school, but if we get the plug-in version, these two cover all modular needs... Reaktor is still strong, but I doubt there is much space to enhance it, I am happy with it as it is...
The Grid is so much faster and more inspiring than all the others... (obviously just my opinion...)
There are some needs to turn Bitwig into an alternative for ProTools, I would prefer to see those, than being forced to learn Reaper... (No Avid turned me away from any desire to ever buy ProTools, though I do like the workflow...)

[Cinebient]

Bitwigs Grid is hands down the best Modular I have seen so far, and as its in its infancy I expect it to grow in 2020. I do love VCV-rack, but its a different mind set, more the old school, but if we get the plug-in version, these two cover all modular needs... Reaktor is still strong, but I doubt there is much space to enhance it, I am happy with it as it is...
The Grid is so much faster and more inspiring than all the others... (obviously just my opinion...)
There are some needs to turn Bitwig into an alternative for ProTools, I would prefer to see those, than being forced to learn Reaper... (No Avid turned me away from any desire to ever buy ProTools, though I do like the workflow...)

It´s O.K. but i find the coming Drumbo app f.e. the most innovative thing in kind of workflow since modular gone software. But of course also a personal thing.
But also sound wise i find The Grid (at least what i could demo and what i heard and saw yet) just "O.K."
Reaktor and VCV are nice but for me workflow and CPU killers.
For me innovations are made really by one man shows which really try new things.
But again just my point of view.

[Tj Shredder]

Can’t talk about Drumbo, its not available yet...

[pdxindy]

Can’t talk about Drumbo, its not available yet...

There’s no info available about it... the one video posted by the dev looks entirely uninteresting... and nothing like the Grid.

The Grid is hands down the best modular workflow available today. Really quite innovative and well designed.

[pdxindy]

But also sound wise i find The Grid (at least what i could demo and what i heard and saw yet) just "O.K."

The Grid is not emulating traditional analog modular. In that regard the sound is not nearly as good as say Reaktor Blocks.

As a flexible digital toolkit, the Grid is a very good balance of sound quality and cpu. I can make a beautiful sounding patch with a granular Osc, a wavefolded Osc, couple filters and modulators etc. and get 24 voice polyphony and of course play it MPE style. And it is joyfully fast to set up such patches, even with deep complex modulation.

It’s significantly faster and more fluidly fun than any of the other available software modulars that I have tried...

[anomandaris1]

But also sound wise i find The Grid (at least what i could demo and what i heard and saw yet) just "O.K."

The Grid is not emulating traditional analog modular. In that regard the sound is not nearly as good as say Reaktor Blocks.

As a flexible digital toolkit, the Grid is a very good balance of sound quality and cpu. I can make a beautiful sounding patch with a granular Osc, a wavefolded Osc, couple filters and modulators etc. and get 24 voice polyphony and of course play it MPE style. And it is joyfully fast to set up such patches, even with deep complex modulation.

It’s significantly faster and more fluidly fun than any of the other available software modulars that I have tried...

Man,from your posts it looks like you are a big fanboy... they said it's 4x oversampled, if shouldn't sound bad (btw, I am not a big fan of analogue sounds).
For now Reaktor user library seems like way better deal, because of all the stuff like Euro reakt blocks etc.

[pdxindy]

Reaktor Blocks is mono only... no polyphony. Also, it’s easy to make a bit more complex patch where the single voice gives me cpu crackles. Plus the workflow in Reaktor Blocks is so slow and tedious... and saving presets is awful.

I’d much rather just use hardware modular.

[Cinebient]

Can’t talk about Drumbo, its not available yet...

There’s no info available about it... the one video posted by the dev looks entirely uninteresting... and nothing like the Grid.

The Grid is hands down the best modular workflow available today. Really quite innovative and well designed.

There is a lot info....but not on kvr (even if i posted a thread about it with more info and little vidoe demos here in the modular forum) Just saying. But sorry, a bit off topic here.

[Tj Shredder]

If google doesn’t find it, it must be private. And if its not released all is pure speculation. Only hands-on experience would allow to judge it...

[Tj Shredder]

Man,from your posts it looks like you are a big fanboy... they said it's 4x oversampled, if shouldn't sound bad (btw, I am not a big fan of analogue sounds).
For now Reaktor user library seems like way better deal, because of all the stuff like Euro reakt blocks etc.

The shear amount of user library stuff is maybe the only advantage. Especially with their blocks policy, I doubt they can compete even with the free VCV. I had way more fun in VCV than in Reaktor. But if you don’t have an expressive controller how could you know the difference? I do love their own Creations like Form, Razor etc. though. Its certainly deeper (with core) and it does sound good...
But if you create your own sounds from scratch and want them polyphonic and expressive I haven’t seen anything better than the Grid...

[PieBerger]

I'm holding out for a big update to Live 10, that significantly improves the audio editing workflow i.e. bounce-in-place, fade multiple selected clips on the same track etc. It doesn't need to be as comprehensive as Cubase et al, but my god does it sorely need just a handful of the basic and utilitarian tools/features!

[andypryce]

I'm holding out for a big update to Live 10, that significantly improves the audio editing workflow i.e. bounce-in-place, fade multiple selected clips on the same track etc. It doesn't need to be as comprehensive as Cubase et al, but my god does it sorely need just a handful of the basic and utilitarian tools/features!

Exactly +1000

[DJ Warmonger]

Oh yes... bounce in place without adding "(freeze)" to sample name... especially if you freeze few times in a row

[antic604]

...but my god does it sorely need just a handful of the basic and utilitarian tools/features!

It's as if I was on a Bitwig or Reason forum

It's really weird how those "creative DAWs" devs think that somehow giving us the basic, quality-of-life features will deprive their software of that uniqueness or something? I'm honestly sticking with Bitwig mostly because it saves me a lot of time when doing complex instrument / FX / MIDI chains compared to Cubase or S1; but - my God! - I'm sometimes ready to throw my computer out of the window when simple audio or MIDI editing stuff is needlessly cumbersome or downright impossible to do... Live isn't much better as you pointed out, but it's pretty impressive how they turned things around with 10 and 10.1. If 10 was released a year before, I wouldn't have switched to Bitwig and stayed there, but now there's no coming back (UNLESS Live gets alias clips, that is ).

Right now I'm finishing a project in Bitwig and will start a new one in Cubase Pro to see how far I can take it (so far only did few simple loops to get myself familiar with it...).

[apoclypse]

Bitwig really needs to do something about their DSP usage. Even Live performs better in general than Bitwig. There other things Bitwig does that is just plain weird and confusing. If they fix those issues it would be an amazing DAW.