KVR Audio

cowby · Post by **cowby** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:29 pm

raiderpdog wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:56 pm Man, so glad I saw this thread! I just bought a bunch of TubeOhm stuff on sale after investigating it, old or not. They are all playing great in Reaper, very nice sounds in all of them. So, thanks to the original poster of this thread. Pleasant surprise.

I have not familiar with Reaper. Are you using 32bit Reaper ?

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:50 pm

cowby wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:29 pm
raiderpdog wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:56 pm Man, so glad I saw this thread! I just bought a bunch of TubeOhm stuff on sale after investigating it, old or not. They are all playing great in Reaper, very nice sounds in all of them. So, thanks to the original poster of this thread. Pleasant surprise.
I have not familiar with Reaper. Are you using 32bit Reaper ?

Reaper has (like many others) a built in bridge. So 32bit plugins work in 64bit Reaper. Best daw for working with 32 and 64 bit plugs at the same time is IMO Bitwig.

anttimaatteri · Post by **anttimaatteri** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:09 pm

Halonmusic wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:24 pm TubeOhm makes some cool stuff

yes, he is far too overseen. i bought two of his products. i just dont know if he yet decided to do 64bit overhauls. i guess not.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:25 pm

anttimaatteri wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:09 pm
Halonmusic wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:24 pm TubeOhm makes some cool stuff
yes, he is far too overseen. i bought two of his products. i just dont know if he yet decided to do 64bit overhauls. i guess not.

Enough users request it and I believe it'd happen.. But what is enough?

raiderpdog · Post by **raiderpdog** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:54 pm

cowby wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:29 pm
raiderpdog wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:56 pm Man, so glad I saw this thread! I just bought a bunch of TubeOhm stuff on sale after investigating it, old or not. They are all playing great in Reaper, very nice sounds in all of them. So, thanks to the original poster of this thread. Pleasant surprise.
I have not familiar with Reaper. Are you using 32bit Reaper ?

Distorted Horizon is correct, Reaper can handle both. I am using 64.

I think being a somewhat newbie to all this stuff, I got TubeOhm confused with OhmForce, lol. I had some of their stuff, and didn't investigate TubeOhm...but like others have said, some real treasures in their line of synths. It was lucky to stumble onto nice things, but also nice things on sale

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:29 pm

Has anyone tried their stuff with jBridge in Cubase? Any specific recommendations for synths?

cowby · Post by **cowby** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:28 am

raiderpdog wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:54 pm
cowby wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:29 pm
raiderpdog wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:56 pm Man, so glad I saw this thread! I just bought a bunch of TubeOhm stuff on sale after investigating it, old or not. They are all playing great in Reaper, very nice sounds in all of them. So, thanks to the original poster of this thread. Pleasant surprise.
I have not familiar with Reaper. Are you using 32bit Reaper ?
Distorted Horizon is correct, Reaper can handle both. I am using 64.

I think being a somewhat newbie to all this stuff, I got TubeOhm confused with OhmForce, lol. I had some of their stuff, and didn't investigate TubeOhm...but like others have said, some real treasures in their line of synths. It was lucky to stumble onto nice things, but also nice things on sale

Thanks Guys for your clarification. I tried to load those bad boys in FLStudio 20. Seems stable enough. Keep demoing....

Gucky · Post by **Gucky** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:40 pm

I have all Tubeohm synths and no problem with running it with jbridge.
Only with Fluid I have sometimes little problems. All other synths run perfect!
I am a very happy user of the Tubeohm synths!!!

ENV1 · Post by **ENV1** » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:01 am

anttimaatterir_id=369786 wrote: yes, he is far too overseen. i bought two of his products. i just dont know if he yet decided to do 64bit overhauls. i guess not.

He has the same problem that all other SynthEdit users have, namely that his hands are tied until the devs of the modules used in the plugin release 64bit versions of them. If that doesnt happen there is nothing he can do, except learning how to write modules himself.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:46 am

I think he's focused on the hardware side now..

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:37 am

Distorted Horizon wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:46 am I think he's focused on the hardware side now..

No, no... He remains very present on the technical discussions on our Yahoo Synthedit developers group.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:41 am

BlackWinny wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:37 am
Distorted Horizon wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:46 am I think he's focused on the hardware side now..
No, no... He remains very present on the technical discussions on our Yahoo Synthedit developers group.

Active chatting but how about working on his synths?

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:45 pm

Wasn't Adam Sazbo able to do 64 bit? I know that is something something Flowstone. Aren't they related? I don't really know about this side of stuff, so don't be mad. Just a question, heh.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:07 am

anttimaatteri wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:09 pm
Halonmusic wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:24 pm TubeOhm makes some cool stuff
yes, he is far too overseen. i bought two of his products. i just dont know if he yet decided to do 64bit overhauls. i guess not.

Indeed. He might make 64bit versions when the modules are updated i believe

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:28 am

thejonsolo wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:45 pm Wasn't Adam Sazbo able to do 64 bit? I know that is something something Flowstone. Aren't they related? I don't really know about this side of stuff, so don't be mad. Just a question, heh.

Hello Jon !

They are two very different platforms of development.

Adam Szabo works with FlowStone, indeed. And Andre Laska (TubeOhm) works with SynthEdit.

Both platforms went 64-bit, but they work very differently. FlowStone is much more opened with its ability to create your own modules simply coded in Ruby, an interpreted language which don't need to be compiled, don't need any compiler, and which is easier to learn than C++. SynthEdit, at the inverse, allows developers to create modules only in C++, a compiled language, which requires a compiler, and which is more difficult to master than Ruby.

So... both have pros and cons.

And both are in beta versions for their 64-bit edition.

A huge problem with SynthEdit is, the modules being compiled they need themselves to be recompiled in 64-bit (at least once) to work in a 64-bit plugin. But the user of SynthEdit being not owner of the modules (unless he is skilled in C++ development) and having even not the least access to the source code of the modules... he needs to ask the maker of an old 32-bit module to recompile it in 64-bit. But many excellent developers who, as Chris Kerry or David Haupt for example, had made 32-bit modules used by many SynthEdit developers... are no longer involved in the SynthEdit developments, and some of them have even totally disappeared. So... if you don't have enough skills in C++ to make yourself your own modules you are constraint either to wait either to find an alternative to this unreleased 64-bit edition of the module you need. But the developers of alternative modules are still quite rare today, four years after the first editions of the 64-bit environment of SynthEdit.

With FlowStone it is very different: Ruby being quite easy to learn, as soon as you need something specific you can make it yourself (with the help of the community if you are still learning the language). That's why there are today much more new plugins which are built on FlowStone than new plugins which are built on SynthEdit.

Adam Szabo is very skilled in Ruby and make himself the FlowStone modules he don't need to be compiled

Andre Laska is not very skilled in C++ and can't make himself the SynthEdit modules he needs for specific parts of his plugins.

Today the new SynthEdit-based plugins which appear on the "market" are either made with the basic modules offered with the platform (good modules but which don't match all the need, especially specific needs)... either made by developers who make themselves their own specific modules (as Xavier Kalensky for example, the famous and excellent KX77 developer). It is the reason why many very good 32-bit SynthEdit-based plugins are still not available in 64-bit while a lot of new FlowStone plugins appear regularly in 64-bit as well as in 32-bit.

Happy New Year to you and to all here !

Jacques

I fell in love with TubeOhm super BRUNO-III but I can't bring her home - 32bit blues.