Could we be on the verge of SONAR 4 Producer Edition?
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- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
it better be cheaper to upgrade too
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 24 Sep, 2003 from USA
I'm pretty sure they were spaced farther than a year.
I know that Sonar 2 had several 2.x iterations. We're only at v3.1, so you're telling me they can't implement a few new features and move to maybe a v3.2?
Like I said, better be a HUGE change. That being said though Cake has never let me down, although companies do change. I would just hate to see them implement a few features, call it a new version, and wait to cash in on people like me who always upgrade to new versions to have the latest and greatest, as well as support the developer.
I don't know, maybe in my aging brain my perception of time is changing, but damn it seems soon. I remember waiting for new versions before, hoping they would come. This is the first time it has ever seemed too soon to me.
Meh, it's still too early for me to be typing in public forums. Disregard my retardism if you want.
I know that Sonar 2 had several 2.x iterations. We're only at v3.1, so you're telling me they can't implement a few new features and move to maybe a v3.2?
Like I said, better be a HUGE change. That being said though Cake has never let me down, although companies do change. I would just hate to see them implement a few features, call it a new version, and wait to cash in on people like me who always upgrade to new versions to have the latest and greatest, as well as support the developer.
I don't know, maybe in my aging brain my perception of time is changing, but damn it seems soon. I remember waiting for new versions before, hoping they would come. This is the first time it has ever seemed too soon to me.
Meh, it's still too early for me to be typing in public forums. Disregard my retardism if you want.
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
It was 'soon'. It was Oct 2003 when Sonar 3 came out. Probably trying to keep up with Cubase, I'm sure.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
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Does anyone else find this a little SOON for a new version.
Its faster than their previous 18-month upgrade cycle, but
I mean God damn, I just spent a good bit of money not too long ago on the upgrade from 2 to 3 (which for what it's worth was totally worth it!).
Well it cost me £150 for the 2XL-to-3P upgrade which included the Sonitus bundle and VSampler3, so I reckon that was pretty much a bargain for what you actually got. And the S2->S3 upgrade was only about £80
There had better be some f**king amazing features to nab another couple (or few?) hundy from me!
I doubt it'll be more than previous upgrades. So £150-£175 for the Producer bundle, and £75-£90 for the Studio version. 'Few hundred' I severely doubt.
As for features, the surround stuff has been on the cards for a while. And Project and Kinetic hopefully indicate where they're going with sequencing.
Im kind of curious how the AV stuff goes, and how it compares to the ProTools rigs I bought for my work.
Does anyone else find this a little SOON for a new version.
Its faster than their previous 18-month upgrade cycle, but
I mean God damn, I just spent a good bit of money not too long ago on the upgrade from 2 to 3 (which for what it's worth was totally worth it!).
Well it cost me £150 for the 2XL-to-3P upgrade which included the Sonitus bundle and VSampler3, so I reckon that was pretty much a bargain for what you actually got. And the S2->S3 upgrade was only about £80
There had better be some f**king amazing features to nab another couple (or few?) hundy from me!
I doubt it'll be more than previous upgrades. So £150-£175 for the Producer bundle, and £75-£90 for the Studio version. 'Few hundred' I severely doubt.
As for features, the surround stuff has been on the cards for a while. And Project and Kinetic hopefully indicate where they're going with sequencing.
Im kind of curious how the AV stuff goes, and how it compares to the ProTools rigs I bought for my work.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
indeed,As for features, the surround stuff has been on the cards for a while. And Project and Kinetic hopefully indicate where they're going with sequencing.
i have recently come round to thinking I was on the wrong side of things hoping Cake would bring features like groove clips and bounce to track to P-5 when it's seems more likely they'll be move up some of the easier editing and sequencing features or P-5 to Sonar.
I'm not exactly sure how this could happen, given Sonar's different model for low level piano roll editing, but I guess I'll know in a day or two.
Otherwise the Rewire option is usable and there's a groundswell of support for P-5 to be implemented as a Dxi/vst in their next upgrade.
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753 - KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
just be patient y'all
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- KVRAF
- 2121 posts since 14 Jun, 2002 from Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
You sound somehow confident AND informed...S_A_P wrote:just be patient y'all
....or you just tryin' to push everybody's buttons?....
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- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
all that I am allowed to say is nothing.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
intrigue
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Im hoping that support for surround means they'll handle multiple-input effects!
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
/me scratches Sonar 2.2 to 3.1 upgrade off of his shopping list, will wait now for 4...S_A_P wrote:all that I am allowed to say is nothing.
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- KVRist
- 189 posts since 29 Jan, 2003 from location, location, location...
Care to offer any specifics? I haven't found 3 "flakey" at all. If it were, rest assured I would not be using it. I go back to Atari's and the earliest sequencers...I hate to think I don't know a "flakey" program when I see it. However, nothing is perfect I realize, so that's why I was curious what was so messed up. Everyone's experiences can be different I realize.ttoz wrote:yeah the program itself is great to use but it is the most flakey of any i have ever used. catch 22Robert Randolph wrote:Deeo inside I have this strong desire for sonar to become something I like... it's so close to my style.. but soooo flakey in my experienceNot even usable in all the times Ive tried.
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Robert Randolph Robert Randolph https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7328 - KVRAF
- 2226 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida
Well firstly, never could get low latencies. Saw/tracktion easily get 64/92 samples depending on the card I use. Sonar was always above 5ms.LoRez wrote:Care to offer any specifics? I haven't found 3 "flakey" at all. If it were, rest assured I would not be using it. I go back to Atari's and the earliest sequencers...I hate to think I don't know a "flakey" program when I see it. However, nothing is perfect I realize, so that's why I was curious what was so messed up. Everyone's experiences can be different I realize.ttoz wrote:yeah the program itself is great to use but it is the most flakey of any i have ever used. catch 22Robert Randolph wrote:Deeo inside I have this strong desire for sonar to become something I like... it's so close to my style.. but soooo flakey in my experience
Many VST's seemed to crash it.
If you did large multitrack editing functions (which are a bear in sonar), it would often turn to a slug.. or crash.
Mixing? Everytime I tried to make a mixer thing in it, Id get all sorts of crashes... add something, slow slow... is it coming yet? nope.. crash.
high cpu loads bring it to a halt. over 50% and it starts getting really weird... sequencers I use now are completely solid all the way to 100%, can barely notice a difference. Im spoiled, I refuse to accept less now.
And well... it just crashed in the oddest times. I tried the demo for about 3 weeks. I love the look of the program, I like how it records. It'd be a perfect replacement for tracktion... if it was stable. So Im looking forward to trying v4. I strongly doubt it will though. All cakewalks products, even the rare ones that done crash.. still dont feel solid. It's hard to be confident using their software. Just something about the stock windows UI, and the overused window in window layout... so blatant.