Dithering is just adding noise to a signal before down sampling. Originally this was just broadband noise, then somebody realised that you could get marginally improved measured performance by shaping the noise. The different flavours of shaping spawned a minor industry.
The differences between dithering algos are measurable only at or close to the lsb or around -96dB. Remember this when some marketing twonk tries to persuade you that it's "night and day".
SONAR 4 Surround....
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 2139 posts since 15 Jul, 2003 from ex-NJ, PA
http://www.edirol.it/europe/details.asp ... K&code=343
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
The definitive audio production environment for Windows
SONAR has a well-earned reputation for delivering powerful production tools in a fast, streamlined user interface. With SONAR 4, Cakewalk has added powerful new recording, editing, comping and navigation tools that optimize workflow for today's professional. In addition, version 4 combines innovative Surround Sound and AV capabilities along with precise engineering tools.
SONAR 4 Producer edition is the perfect solution for composing, recording, editing, mixing, and remixing music productions; and for providing foley, voice over, score, sound design and post audio for film, TV, video, commercials, and games.
With its open support for industry standard technologies and hardware, the scalability of a native processing system, and virtually unlimited software capabilities, SONAR 4 Producer represents the definitive audio & music production software for Windows.
SONAR 4 Producer Exclusives
Multi-format surround mixing with over 30 configurations supported (5.1, 7.1, LCRS and more)
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Surround Reverb
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Reverb
Sonitus Surround Compressor
Sonitus fx Suite
SurroundBridge™ - use stereo plug-ins in multi-channel environments
Video Thumbnail track
POW-r Dithering with three algorithms
Prosoniq MPEX time scaling
Dynamic Console with per-channel EQ, assignable FX controls
SONAR 4 New Features
Track Folders with the ability to edit the Track Folder Composite Clip
Loop record into layers or individual tracks
Enhanced comping and editing features: clip muting, partial-clip muting, auto-crop tool with cross-fade mode, audition selection, isolate, nudge
Multi-clip slip edits, loop-rolling, fade drawing
Loop construction enhancements: slice-based envelope control of gain, pitch, pan; slice preview; auto-loop
Freeze tracks, effects, and synths; edit, arrange, and convert frozen data into groove clips
Scalable Navigator view to quickly navigate and size viewable area of projects
Configurable Pan law (six stereo panning laws supported)
Professional Metering (peak, RMS, peak and RMS, pre-fader, post-fader, and pre-fader post effects) with configurable ballistics
Key Binding enhancements: presets; templates to mimic keyboard assignments of other DAW programs
TTS-1 multitimbral, multi-out GM2 synthesizer with authentic Roland® sounds
Full control over file export parameters, now with useful and configurable presets
Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, and WMA9 lossless encoding and decoding
Open support for external encoders: surround (Producer Edition only), LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Supports QuickTime, Windows Media Video, and AVI with 5.1 Surround Sound (Producer Edition only)
Bus-able Audio Metronome
Full-control over color settings
Optimized audio engine performance
Export buses and tracks into a composite mixdown, or as individual files
SONAR 4 Key Features
Record, edit, arrange and mix unlimited tracks of audio and MIDI
Dynamic Console
Universal Bus Architecture with on-the-fly configuration
32-Bit floating point audio engine
80-Bit automation
Full plug-in delay compensation
Ultra-high quality sample rate conversion with Windowed Sync resampler algorithm
Support for any sampling rate (44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 192, 384 kHz)
Precise waveform display at any zoom resolution
Rock-solid synchronization of audio, MIDI, video, external hardware
Sub-sample accurate internal timing resolution for audio, soft synths and automation; 960 PPQN for external MIDI devices
HyperThreading/multiprocessor optimization
Loop-based composition, construction, and editing tools with ACID™ loop and MIDI groove clip support, Cyclone DXi
Support for DirectX and VST audio effects; MFX MIDI FX; DXi and VSTi soft synths; and ReWire 1.0 & 2.0 clients (Project5, Kinetic, Reason, more)
Includes 31 audio effects 4 DXi soft synths, 14 MFX
Advanced MIDI routing & synth layering
Unlimited undo/redo with edit history
Assign hotkeys for custom screen layouts
Views: Arrange, Big Time, Console, Drum Editor, Event List, Loop Construction, Lyrics, Markers, Multitrack Piano Roll, Staff Notation, Playlist, SYSEX, Synth Rack, Tempo list/graph, Video, more
Professional Project File Management Tools: per project audio directories; consolidate project files for fast backup; search for associated files
Extensive, context-sensitive online help and 650+ page printed manual
Unparalleled, free customer service and online user community
Hassle-free copy protection (serial number on installation)
Designed exclusively for and optimized for Windows XP/2000
Hardware and compatibility
OMFI & Broadcast Wave import/export for cross platform collaboration with Digital Performer, Logic, Nuendo, and Pro Tools studios
Import formats: AIF, ASF, AU, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio), Broadcast Wave, MIDI, MP2, MP3, MPEG, MPG, OMFI, Quicktime, SND, WAV, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, Windows Media Video, proprietary Cakewalk formats (.bun, .cwb, .cwp, .wrk)
Export: WAV, ACID-format WAV, Broadcast Wave, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio),, OMFI, MIDI, MP3*, Quicktime,, Real Audio G2, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, and proprietary Cakewalk formats (.cwb, .cwp); Other audio formats supported via external command-line encoders
Open support for external encoders: surround, LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Export video with control over quality settings and codecs
Support for any MIDI compatible hardware control surface (Edirol, Mackie, Tascam, more)
Frame-accurate SMPTE sync with auto-detection of timecode
Multi-port MTC and MIDI sync transmission
Yamaha OPT Level 1 MIDI Hardware Link support
Support for all Windows-compatible audio hardware (including Pro Tools | HD) via ASIO or WDM
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35440 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
£119 upgrade? Slightly cheaper than 2XL-> 3P then...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2139 posts since 15 Jul, 2003 from ex-NJ, PA
Not sure, but that's like US$214!whyterabbyt wrote:£119 upgrade? Slightly cheaper than 2XL-> 3P then...
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
Configurable Pan law (six stereo panning laws supported)
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who frequents the cakewalk forums will understand this LOL!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who frequents the cakewalk forums will understand this LOL!
If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
thanks for the explanations, guys.
and now, this list of features...
impressive, isn't it?
(track folders... detail but: yuuhuu
)
oh! where's my wallet?
and now, this list of features...
impressive, isn't it?
(track folders... detail but: yuuhuu
)oh! where's my wallet?
torhan wrote:Enjoy!The definitive audio production environment for Windows
SONAR has a well-earned reputation for delivering powerful production tools in a fast, streamlined user interface. With SONAR 4, Cakewalk has added powerful new recording, editing, comping and navigation tools that optimize workflow for today's professional. In addition, version 4 combines innovative Surround Sound and AV capabilities along with precise engineering tools.
SONAR 4 Producer edition is the perfect solution for composing, recording, editing, mixing, and remixing music productions; and for providing foley, voice over, score, sound design and post audio for film, TV, video, commercials, and games.
With its open support for industry standard technologies and hardware, the scalability of a native processing system, and virtually unlimited software capabilities, SONAR 4 Producer represents the definitive audio & music production software for Windows.
SONAR 4 Producer Exclusives
Multi-format surround mixing with over 30 configurations supported (5.1, 7.1, LCRS and more)
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Surround Reverb
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Reverb
Sonitus Surround Compressor
Sonitus fx Suite
SurroundBridge™ - use stereo plug-ins in multi-channel environments
Video Thumbnail track
POW-r Dithering with three algorithms
Prosoniq MPEX time scaling
Dynamic Console with per-channel EQ, assignable FX controls
SONAR 4 New Features
Track Folders with the ability to edit the Track Folder Composite Clip
Loop record into layers or individual tracks
Enhanced comping and editing features: clip muting, partial-clip muting, auto-crop tool with cross-fade mode, audition selection, isolate, nudge
Multi-clip slip edits, loop-rolling, fade drawing
Loop construction enhancements: slice-based envelope control of gain, pitch, pan; slice preview; auto-loop
Freeze tracks, effects, and synths; edit, arrange, and convert frozen data into groove clips
Scalable Navigator view to quickly navigate and size viewable area of projects
Configurable Pan law (six stereo panning laws supported)
Professional Metering (peak, RMS, peak and RMS, pre-fader, post-fader, and pre-fader post effects) with configurable ballistics
Key Binding enhancements: presets; templates to mimic keyboard assignments of other DAW programs
TTS-1 multitimbral, multi-out GM2 synthesizer with authentic Roland® sounds
Full control over file export parameters, now with useful and configurable presets
Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, and WMA9 lossless encoding and decoding
Open support for external encoders: surround (Producer Edition only), LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Supports QuickTime, Windows Media Video, and AVI with 5.1 Surround Sound (Producer Edition only)
Bus-able Audio Metronome
Full-control over color settings
Optimized audio engine performance
Export buses and tracks into a composite mixdown, or as individual files
SONAR 4 Key Features
Record, edit, arrange and mix unlimited tracks of audio and MIDI
Dynamic Console
Universal Bus Architecture with on-the-fly configuration
32-Bit floating point audio engine
80-Bit automation
Full plug-in delay compensation
Ultra-high quality sample rate conversion with Windowed Sync resampler algorithm
Support for any sampling rate (44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 192, 384 kHz)
Precise waveform display at any zoom resolution
Rock-solid synchronization of audio, MIDI, video, external hardware
Sub-sample accurate internal timing resolution for audio, soft synths and automation; 960 PPQN for external MIDI devices
HyperThreading/multiprocessor optimization
Loop-based composition, construction, and editing tools with ACID™ loop and MIDI groove clip support, Cyclone DXi
Support for DirectX and VST audio effects; MFX MIDI FX; DXi and VSTi soft synths; and ReWire 1.0 & 2.0 clients (Project5, Kinetic, Reason, more)
Includes 31 audio effects 4 DXi soft synths, 14 MFX
Advanced MIDI routing & synth layering
Unlimited undo/redo with edit history
Assign hotkeys for custom screen layouts
Views: Arrange, Big Time, Console, Drum Editor, Event List, Loop Construction, Lyrics, Markers, Multitrack Piano Roll, Staff Notation, Playlist, SYSEX, Synth Rack, Tempo list/graph, Video, more
Professional Project File Management Tools: per project audio directories; consolidate project files for fast backup; search for associated files
Extensive, context-sensitive online help and 650+ page printed manual
Unparalleled, free customer service and online user community
Hassle-free copy protection (serial number on installation)
Designed exclusively for and optimized for Windows XP/2000
Hardware and compatibility
OMFI & Broadcast Wave import/export for cross platform collaboration with Digital Performer, Logic, Nuendo, and Pro Tools studios
Import formats: AIF, ASF, AU, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio), Broadcast Wave, MIDI, MP2, MP3, MPEG, MPG, OMFI, Quicktime, SND, WAV, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, Windows Media Video, proprietary Cakewalk formats (.bun, .cwb, .cwp, .wrk)
Export: WAV, ACID-format WAV, Broadcast Wave, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio),, OMFI, MIDI, MP3*, Quicktime,, Real Audio G2, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, and proprietary Cakewalk formats (.cwb, .cwp); Other audio formats supported via external command-line encoders
Open support for external encoders: surround, LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Export video with control over quality settings and codecs
Support for any MIDI compatible hardware control surface (Edirol, Mackie, Tascam, more)
Frame-accurate SMPTE sync with auto-detection of timecode
Multi-port MTC and MIDI sync transmission
Yamaha OPT Level 1 MIDI Hardware Link support
Support for all Windows-compatible audio hardware (including Pro Tools | HD) via ASIO or WDM
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
torhan,
the uk prices are notoriously higher than what the us pays, its a big issue @ the cakewalk forums. my guess is it will be in the $149-179 USD range
the uk prices are notoriously higher than what the us pays, its a big issue @ the cakewalk forums. my guess is it will be in the $149-179 USD range
If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
some screenshots would be nice
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 2139 posts since 15 Jul, 2003 from ex-NJ, PA
Yeah---I just realized that moments after I posted!EricRichmond wrote:torhan,
the uk prices are notoriously higher than what the us pays, its a big issue @ the cakewalk forums. my guess is it will be in the $149-179 USD range
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- KVRAF
- 2139 posts since 15 Jul, 2003 from ex-NJ, PA
I have a 20-40% understanding of it.EricRichmond wrote:Configurable Pan law (six stereo panning laws supported)
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who frequents the cakewalk forums will understand this LOL!
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
TTS-1 multitimbral, multi-out GM2 synthesizer with authentic Roland® sounds
!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
[/list]If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
EricRichmond wrote:
could you possible zoom out a bit on that one, I can still almost make out some things
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
Open support for external encoders: surround (Producer Edition only)
Those of us who use Vegas+DVDA, hopefully we can use teh SoFo encoder direct from Sonar!!! This is exactly what I was hoping for
Those of us who use Vegas+DVDA, hopefully we can use teh SoFo encoder direct from Sonar!!! This is exactly what I was hoping for
If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
hey spaceman, I just nabbed it from the site sorry 
actually is that legal? if not let me know and I will edit the post asap.
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Optimized audio engine performance
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Robert, could this be the upgrade you were looking for? 
actually is that legal? if not let me know and I will edit the post asap.
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Optimized audio engine performance
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Robert, could this be the upgrade you were looking for?
If it sounds good it is good.