Nexus 3 competitors?

[dune_rave]

avenger, m1, triton, synthmaster

[Tannaliini]

avenger, m1, triton, synthmaster

Synthmaster doesn't offer sample import?

[Trancit]

How about Ana2 compared to Avenger? Ana 2 has 3 sample based oscilators + 3 "basic" oscilators? Or does Avenger offer more sample editing options?

Most people and you too are missing the core feature of Nexus...: the quality of the presets/sample content respectively the large amount of work they have to put in... this isn´t comparable to a simple preset pack for Serum/Sylenth/Spire etc...

Everybody ever made a professional sounding more complex sound/preset/lead etc out of pure synthesis knows how many osc, layers, fx are necessary for making this sound... and how much processing power it takes...
The most what you pay for is that all this work was already done for you by not only creating fantastic sounds but intense and deep sampling of these to make it possible to run 50, 60 or 70 instances of Nexus in parallel...

This is mostly not possible in products like ANA 2 or Avenger because they do not offer the deeper sampler functions... they offer simple sample playback and in regards of Avenger special tasks like granular... but you´ll hardly be able to run 60 instances of Avenger at the same time, which alone would already take about 70 gigs of RAM just for Avenger...

But what I miss in FLEX is more flexibility on the sound editing. Not much, but even a little bit more editing options would be soooo much!

Nexus allows a lot more control over the sound than FLEX but don´t expect too much...

You cannot have the one without the other...

Nexus and Avenger are perfect for comparing...

Nexus: fantastic presets, very light on CPU because of mostly just playing samples but limited editing

Avenger: equal quality of presets but quite CPU/RAM intense because of mostly realtime driven but more than extense control over every aspect of the sound

My personal approach to this topic:

For bread and butter stuff for electronic music which doesn´t play mostly in foreground anyway but often needed many instances of different sounds you´ll not find anything better than Nexus if you are into the concept "production ready out of the box"...

For everything in foreground where you want to have something special this is the time to grab one or more of the feature extense plugins like Avenger/Serum/Rapid/Dune 3 etc.. as there aren´t that many instances necessary but individuality and creativity are king...

[SirkusPi]

Most people and you too are missing the core feature of Nexus...: the quality of the presets/sample content respectively the large amount of work they have to put in... this isn´t comparable to a simple preset pack for Serum/Sylenth/Spire etc...

Yup. As pointed out in this thread (before it went a bit haywire ), one frequent problem at most music forums is someone will ask for advice about what synth (or other plugin) has specific features, but as the thread goes on, it will quickly devolve into everyone just listing their favorites, regardless of how relevant. I suppose one just needs to accept it as part of the charm!

[Kinh]

why-dya want sometin' similar to dat?

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

The topic is interesting and i am sorry that my joke about me as competitor and the price wasn't accepted,i am not trying to underestimate the huge amount of work these guys did to create such a wonderful product,but it's just overpriced
It's amazing product,ready out of box,sound impressive,but the prices could be more friendly from time to time:)Cheers

[dune_rave]

kontakt also can be a nexus competitor.

[anomandaris1]

kontakt also can be a nexus competitor.

Not only Kontakt, any big sampler can do the job .

One big advantage of Nexus/Avenger/Rapid is the pre-layered and sequenced presets - new producers love such sounds ; they can deconstruct and get inspired by them (and some just steal and use them for a basis of a new track, despite it can create copyright problems).

[Trancit]

The topic is interesting and i am sorry that my joke about me as competitor and the price wasn't accepted,i am not trying to underestimate the huge amount of work these guys did to create such a wonderful product,but it's just overpriced
It's amazing product,ready out of box,sound impressive,but the prices could be more friendly from time to time:)Cheers

If you find these overpriced then any sample library is overpriced!!

Most sample libraries i.e. for Kontakt are sold from 50-60$ up to nearly the sky is the limit...
The creators (depending what it delivers) either create and sample or record the sounds, process them and make playable presets from them...
Same is valid for any Nexus expansion...

Why shall be the one overpriced but the other one (which is 99% at least double expensive) is ok??

In the world of sample libraries Nexus is actually quite cheap!!

[anomandaris1]

If you find these overpriced then any sample library is overpriced!!

Most sample libraries i.e. for Kontakt are sold from 50-60$ up to nearly the sky is the limit...
The creators (depending what it delivers) either create and sample or record the sounds, process them and make playable presets from them...
Same is valid for any Nexus expansion...

Why shall be the one overpriced but the other one (which is 99% at least double expensive) is ok??

In the world of sample libraries Nexus is actually quite cheap!!

Nexus expansions are quite shit compared to good sample libraries with multiple velocities and articulations sampled, so the comparison is way off, imo.
If someone is after edm synth patches (even bundled with bonus drum loops etc), there are way better deals than Nexus, especially when there are sales and some companies (like Cymatics) give away plenty of freewares or older packs, too

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

I know how much is the work if making quality product,totally different to hobbyist work,been on both sides and it could take years to complete the final product,so everybody want to have appropriate to the hard work price,just market is oversaturated.
Nothing against Nexus i like it actually,but it's not very realistic 60 euro for expansion,no matter how 'good' the sound is,sorry but advanced user could make original stuff with few affordable synths layered properly,that's why start dealing with sound design and can't go back to sampled stuff anymore,but that's personal view
Probably value of this type of products is genre defined,don't know anyway the topic was about competitors not is it worth the money,sorry for hurting Nexus fans feelings :):)Cheers :):)

[-Yaz-]

The topic is interesting and i am sorry that my joke about me as competitor and the price wasn't accepted,i am not trying to underestimate the huge amount of work these guys did to create such a wonderful product,but it's just overpriced
It's amazing product,ready out of box,sound impressive,but the prices could be more friendly from time to time:)Cheers

The first rule of business is you charge the price which you feel the market will bear comfortably.

So if you feel its overpriced then maybe you're also underpricing your own product.

The expansions are pricey (IMO) but I know they do deals with Sweetwater and also have seasonal half price sales themselves so not really any different to a lot of other vendors and better than some who never discount (Serum, Omnisphere etc).

[energydrink]

Nexus is all about having ‘solid’ presets from the start. You pay so much because it’s a preset monster and if you take the whole bundle you get lots of useable sounds. Ofcourse because the sound palette is so diverse they don’t make every patch as deeply sampled with all the bells and whistles as a fully blown Konstantinos lib would, but that would also be a wrong comparison.

Nexus = fast, lots of useable presets, instant gratification

Nothing more/less basically

[Bippo]

I'm not a big fan of Nexus, but I've seen people suggesting heat up/lethal as alternatives...let me put it this way: Nexus can wipe the floor with those plugins and enslave them.

Heat up especially is such a poor copycat of Nexus with its gui, but the main problem is that a big portion of the samples are embarrassing beyond belief.
Too many samples have like 3-4 different velocity levels and it sounds like an amateur sampled version of an old workstation at best.

Nexus is really one of the best rompler vsts you can get, but if you'll go the hardware's way you'll find out that each one of korg/yamaha/roland latest workstation is 10x times better.

[sacer]

d16 lush is also a massive competitor with his 8 layers, and also has outstanding presets
Dune3 also competes with 8 layers and share with Kevin Schröder a sound designer