A firmware modification for playing LinnStrument "vertically"
- KVRAF
- 2507 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
- Roger Linn Design
Hi Vranq,
On the LinnStrument FAQ page, I explain why LinnStrument's rows always consist of consecutive semitones:
https://www.rogerlinndesign.com/support ... ument-faqs
It's the first FAQ under the "General" tab.
However, you can set LinnStrument's Row Offset to No Overlap so that all pads will have a unique Note Note. Then you can reassign every pad however you wish with a MIDI remapping utility.
Also on the FAQ page, "General" tab, I explain my guiding principal for feature additions. It's the FAQ "Can you add this feature: __________?" There are many features that appeal to a small number of people and I prefer not to make the operation confusing by including many special-case features.
On the LinnStrument FAQ page, I explain why LinnStrument's rows always consist of consecutive semitones:
https://www.rogerlinndesign.com/support ... ument-faqs
It's the first FAQ under the "General" tab.
However, you can set LinnStrument's Row Offset to No Overlap so that all pads will have a unique Note Note. Then you can reassign every pad however you wish with a MIDI remapping utility.
Also on the FAQ page, "General" tab, I explain my guiding principal for feature additions. It's the FAQ "Can you add this feature: __________?" There are many features that appeal to a small number of people and I prefer not to make the operation confusing by including many special-case features.
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 29 Dec, 2020
i did columns set to 2 and rows set to 5 and changed the mpe to 24. the layout is isomorphic!!! and really nice for scales and melodies. this is so very good! i feel that other than guitarists and bassists who know the original layout like the back of their hand this is a winner. (i was really liking row offset -6 so every octave stacks, but it has a pretty high learning curve (for me anyway))
thanks for this custom firmware!!! just fantastic. And for mentioning it on the Zoom call Roger. i feel on the verge of a new relationship (and the other one who sometimes plays it, absolutely loves it)
thanks for this custom firmware!!! just fantastic. And for mentioning it on the Zoom call Roger. i feel on the verge of a new relationship (and the other one who sometimes plays it, absolutely loves it)
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 22 Feb, 2023
Yin, any chance you could make a quick step by step guide post on how to install this firmware (and how to go back to the normal firmware after)? I want to try this out, but don't want to accidentally brick my Linnstrument (if that's a possibility).yinwang0 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:29 am Hello,
According to our discussions in this earlier post
viewtopic.php?f=263&t=559271
I made an unoffical modification to the firmware in order to make it possible to use LinnStrument "vertically". This may help some people use the LinnStrument for piano pieces that need a large range.
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 22 Feb, 2023
Does this mean your linn is doing this layout? viewtopic.php?t=596407&hilit=midimechmr Bien wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:46 am i did columns set to 2 and rows set to 5 and changed the mpe to 24. the layout is isomorphic!!! and really nice for scales and melodies. this is so very good! i feel that other than guitarists and bassists who know the original layout like the back of their hand this is a winner. (i was really liking row offset -6 so every octave stacks, but it has a pretty high learning curve (for me anyway))
thanks for this custom firmware!!! just fantastic. And for mentioning it on the Zoom call Roger. i feel on the verge of a new relationship (and the other one who sometimes plays it, absolutely loves it)
And sorry are you using Yin's firmware or is this some other firmware?
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 808 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
No, this is Yin's custom firmware, where you can offset both rows and columns to discrete values.drake-n wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:59 pmDoes this mean your linn is doing this layout? viewtopic.php?t=596407&hilit=midimechmr Bien wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:46 am i did columns set to 2 and rows set to 5 and changed the mpe to 24. the layout is isomorphic!!! and really nice for scales and melodies. this is so very good! i feel that other than guitarists and bassists who know the original layout like the back of their hand this is a winner. (i was really liking row offset -6 so every octave stacks, but it has a pretty high learning curve (for me anyway))
thanks for this custom firmware!!! just fantastic. And for mentioning it on the Zoom call Roger. i feel on the verge of a new relationship (and the other one who sometimes plays it, absolutely loves it)
And sorry are you using Yin's firmware or is this some other firmware?
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 22 Feb, 2023
Just as an update I got this firmware working. I had missed @Vranq 's comments.
He's right to install it using Windows all you have to do is replace the "linnstrument-firmware-2.3.0.bin" in the official firmware updater with the "linnstrument-firmware-2.2.2-x (XY-tuning).bin" from yinwang0 's folder you can download here: https://github.com/yinwang0/linnstrumen ... ing%29.zip
(Note I removed the "(XY-tuning)"from the name...not sure how that naming would load in the Linn)
This is an awesome update. Just shredding with the +5 semitones per row, and +2 semitones per column layout (similar to the Wikki-Hayden layout which I found with flipcoder's midimech) (and setting mpe to 24)! In just two days was able to perform a very fast piece that I had been fumbling on the standard and tritone layout for many weeks.
Any chance this tuning tweak can be updated to the current firmware? I use the custom lighting feature all the time so it sucks to lose that.
He's right to install it using Windows all you have to do is replace the "linnstrument-firmware-2.3.0.bin" in the official firmware updater with the "linnstrument-firmware-2.2.2-x (XY-tuning).bin" from yinwang0 's folder you can download here: https://github.com/yinwang0/linnstrumen ... ing%29.zip
(Note I removed the "(XY-tuning)"from the name...not sure how that naming would load in the Linn)
This is an awesome update. Just shredding with the +5 semitones per row, and +2 semitones per column layout (similar to the Wikki-Hayden layout which I found with flipcoder's midimech) (and setting mpe to 24)! In just two days was able to perform a very fast piece that I had been fumbling on the standard and tritone layout for many weeks.
Any chance this tuning tweak can be updated to the current firmware? I use the custom lighting feature all the time so it sucks to lose that.
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 808 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
No chance of that happening as-is, since it is not backwards-compatible. It would have to be rewritten by Geert to avoid conflicts with the LinnStrument's functionalities, or a pull request has to be tested by them.
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 22 Feb, 2023
I was actually meaning if @yinwang0 could make the same tuning tweak to the current firmware, but an official version with this feature would be great.FranklyFlawless wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:36 amNo chance of that happening as-is, since it is not backwards-compatible. It would have to be rewritten by Geert to avoid conflicts with the LinnStrument's functionalities, or a pull request has to be tested by them.
I don't see why there would be no chance, @yinwang0 indicated it was a simple tweak.
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 808 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
Some of the issues are already mentioned in this thread:
- Pitch slides are locked to the X-axis due to hardware design, so most vertical layouts cannot effectively use them.
- Roger acknowledged that anyone interested in playing vertical layouts can use the custom firmware. There is no need to implement it in the official firmware, especially considering the limited X-axis issue.
- KVRAF
- 2507 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
- Roger Linn Design
Hi all,
On my "LinnStrument Tips & Tricks" page (accessed from the LinnStrument Support page), I have added the tip "Playing LinnStrument in a vertical Orientation", which provides information about all current methods of doing that, including links to this forum thread.
On my "LinnStrument Tips & Tricks" page (accessed from the LinnStrument Support page), I have added the tip "Playing LinnStrument in a vertical Orientation", which provides information about all current methods of doing that, including links to this forum thread.