The slapping technique is certainly a suitably innovative approach to the issue at hand (no pun intended but appreciated)
Reaper and Acoustic Guitar Timing
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Reaper and Acoustic Guitar Timing
2021-03-06T11:28:22+00:00
Hi Everyone!
Who here plays acoustic guitar and records it in Reaper?
This is something I do a lot and since moving from Reason to Reaper, have not found a foolproof method of getting my guitars bang in time.
Here's what happens. I have a guitar part I'm wanting to record which I've just come up with on my acoustic guitar. I load up a template which has all the relative vocal / guitar tracks assigned and has a studio drum kit (Steven Slate free one) with a 4 on the floor assigned too (as I find it less stringent to play to a kick rather than a click) and then I tap tempo in Reaper to find the BPM.
I then start recording the guitar. I may just strum the first chord of the sequence over and over to begin with to just find the tempo / pulse and then when I feel I'm in time I play the verse chords (maybe twice) and then the bridge chords (again, maybe twice). I always have this problem though, no matter how hard I try, there's always a few strums that don't land on time (even if it's milliseconds out but noticeable). It's flagging up my guitar playing as being novice though I've been playing a long time lol! When not playing in a daw, my strumming sounds great but to a drum or click, hmmm lol!
So then it's onto moving the transients so they're on time. I really explode the clip up big and use ctrl shift c to detect all transients. I have the threshold at -26.6 which seems to detect all transients for me. Does anyone know a shortcut to select all transients afterwards? but timestretching them or moving the transients (I anchor the transient before the one I'm moving) just speeds up the transient I move. So if it's a little early and I move it, it will be a tiny bit faster now (as I've moved the transient forward) and a little late so I move it back, will be a tiny bit slower if that makes sense and then (not always but 9 times out of 10) doesn't sound right as now the strum is faster or slower.
I'm sure Reason does things different. I never had a problem with this is Reason. I think it may be audiowarping the waves when I move the transient as it doesn't seem to speed up or slow down anything.
I've been using Elastique 3.3.3 Pro by the way but not sure what the difference is or if this is the best one to use.
I've now resorted to multiple takes as this seems to be the best approach but is taking like half an hour to record an 8 chord sequence (4 chords for a verse / chorus and 4 for a bridge) which is what most of my songs seem to be.
I would like to know how others achieve this. Is there a way of tidying up slightly out of time guitar strums to be perfectly in time in Reaper. Which time-stretch algorithm do you use? do you use punch in/out to correct areas? comping?
As I say, I never had this issue in Reason and I suppose one solution would be to record the guitar parts in that and import them into Reaper but would much prefer to do this all in Reaper and I'm sure you must be able to do this accurately and sufficently in Reaper as it is a much more advanced daw.
Thanks!
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