Kush BLYSS - Master Channel EQ+Compressor

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:04 pm
plexuss wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:36 am I have removed the track from the below post. I have to concede, at least for this song, Blyss as a track channel strip did not work out. Over-all it sounds better without using Blyss. I think its just not the right source to make Blyss shine.
Honestly, I've had Blyss for some time and it's not a "use-everywhere" type of channel strip IMO. Works great on the mix bus or complex sources like keys, but the EQ is pretty broad and the compressor pretty gentle. When I think channel strip, I think workhorse. I want HP/LP filters, a flexible compressor, maybe even gating/expansion. Blyss is more of a "sound-gooderizer." If I were processing drums, vocals, bass etc., I'd stick to my tried and true plugins for that particular task, get things sounding good, and then if anything, maybe try sticking Blyss on at the end. But like, if I were trying to iron out an overly dynamic kick drum or squash a snare, or totally level out a dynamic rock vocal, I don't think I'd even consider Blyss. Certainly not as a replacement for my typical channel processing but maybe as an add. And if adding, be careful about not driving too hot.

But it's totally killer on keys like pianos, EPs, the mix buss, maybe adding some dark vibes to an already good sounding drum bus. That kind of thing.
I would have to agree it's not a use everywhere type plugin. I bought it solely as a mix buss eq which I think is amazing but I decided to try it on some other things like synth group and drums and it just didn't work for me. Made everything else sound a bit distant, kind of washed out for lack of a better term.
Just didn't like it on anything else but the mix bus.

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Agreed with the above. I did revisit the project now that I have more time with Blyss. I was able to effectively use it on a few tracks with good results. "Made everything else sound a bit distant, kind of washed out for lack of a better term." this is a good description that I was not able to articulate. I think Blyss has some potential on tracks but like you said its source specific. Great on busses though! :tu:

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dblock wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:55 pm
legendCNCD wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:45 pm
dblock wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:41 pm It's your lucky day legendCNCD! I demo'd it then bought it a couple weeks ago. It sits on my master bus in my Cubase temple. I'm using Windows 7. They don't support it on Windows 7 but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Just means they didn't test it for Windows 7 compatibility...but I did. :wink:
Oh man. Then I'm gonna demo it tomorrow :hyper: :tu:
Hope it works on Live 10 too - I havent updated the Omegas because of they said Win8.1 at least required.
Good luck! Let me know if it works for you. :tu:
Yes. It works. Yes, its ... good. Damn.
2.25@40, -0,5@200, -0,5@3k, 2@8k - saturation at 10% but blend at 35-50%
Compressor on Slow - licking around max 0,5dB GR
Input and Output balanced, A/B testing

I CANNOT TAKE IT OFF ANYMORE. Not at least on this master. Well I can but that just sounds better. Bass has now that kind of saturation I wanted originally and theres tiny bit more clarity overall. I also found I didnt have to adjust so much in TDR SlickEQ M afterwards, very gentle lowshelf around 0,5dB and bit off from 500-600 and bit up for the highs on shelf - no saturation on M.

Using Slow on compressor, it somehow made the tune more chilled, on Fast it brought it a bit forward, but thats not what I wanted on this tune. I agree one can make Blyss push 'back' too much if not using the mid EQ's but only low and high for that color. Than can be remedied a bit with saturation and compressing in fast mode.. but it all depends.

My chain was Blyss > Pulsar Mu (slow lick too max 1dB GR peaks) > Slick EQ M > Limiter

Ugh. The bad thing: It overloads my master chain easily because it adds 15% CPU load just by inserting it and I'm already at the edge around 70-85% with peaks to 95-97% sometimes. This is on listening settings of course, not rendering.

I tried it also on another not ready song. It fit there a bit less but I could get that same bass expansion easily going on. On this one on stereobus somehow even low saturation was too much to a clap which expanded into reverb. The reverb was lifted a lot, so if I would have used this I'd have to lower the reverb. Anyway, it also sounded good not just what I wanted. Very silky saturation. Hi-Fi feeling but somehow more alive.. :D :oops: :party: :clap: Great piece of software.

This would be fantastic also on our bass bus - it just sounds so right but it takes so much CPU on my current ye olde machine.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene

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legendCNCD wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:21 pm
dblock wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:55 pm
legendCNCD wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:45 pm
dblock wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:41 pm It's your lucky day legendCNCD! I demo'd it then bought it a couple weeks ago. It sits on my master bus in my Cubase temple. I'm using Windows 7. They don't support it on Windows 7 but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Just means they didn't test it for Windows 7 compatibility...but I did. :wink:
Oh man. Then I'm gonna demo it tomorrow :hyper: :tu:
Hope it works on Live 10 too - I havent updated the Omegas because of they said Win8.1 at least required.
Good luck! Let me know if it works for you. :tu:
Yes. It works. Yes, its ... good. Damn.

I CANNOT TAKE IT OFF ANYMORE. Not at least on this master. Well I can but that just sounds better. Bass has now that kind of saturation I wanted originally and theres tiny bit more clarity overall. I also found I didnt have to adjust so much in TDR SlickEQ M afterwards, very gentle lowshelf around 0,5dB and bit off from 500-600 and bit up for the highs on shelf - no saturation on M.

Using Slow on compressor, it somehow made the tune more chilled, on Fast it brought it a bit forward, but thats not what I wanted on this tune. I agree one can make Blyss push 'back' too much if not using the mid EQ's but only low and high for that color. Than can be remedied a bit with saturation and compressing in fast mode.. but it all depends.

My chain was Blyss > Pulsar Mu (slow lick too max 1dB GR peaks) > Slick EQ M > Limiter

Ugh. The bad thing: It overloads my master chain easily because it adds 15% CPU load just by inserting it and I'm already at the edge around 70-85% with peaks to 95-97% sometimes. This is on listening settings of course, not rendering.

I tried it also on another not ready song. It fit there a bit less but I could get that same bass expansion easily going on. On this one on stereobus somehow even low saturation was too much to a clap which expanded into reverb. The reverb was lifted a lot, so if I would have used this I'd have to lower the reverb. Anyway, it also sounded good not just what I wanted. Very silky saturation. Hi-Fi feeling but somehow more alive.. :D :oops: :party: :clap: Great piece of software.

This would be fantastic also on our bass bus - it just sounds so right but it takes so much CPU on my current ye olde machine.
LOL! I think you really like it. Glad it works for you and yeah, cpu is pretty chunky on my machine too but I would get rid of something else before I got rid of this. For me, this just works.It just adds so much depth on the mix bus.I've got most of the so called "high end" type of mastering eq plugins but this thing works to my ears more than anything I've got or heard so far. Congrats on it working on your machine! :clap: :tu: :tu:

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With the demo I have one problem, when I open some project with a lot of plugins, the Blyss will refuse to work, it'll throw some iLok error.

But! If I throw it on empty project first, it'll load properly. Then if I open again that project which it did not work into, it'll work now... maybe its the demo version, or then its Win7 :/

I dont kinda care if it works like that but... :pray:
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene

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legendCNCD wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:51 pm With the demo I have one problem, when I open some project with a lot of plugins, the Blyss will refuse to work, it'll throw some iLok error.

But! If I throw it on empty project first, it'll load properly. Then if I open again that project which it did not work into, it'll work now... maybe its the demo version, or then its Win7 :/

I dont kinda care if it works like that but... :pray:
Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling?

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legendCNCD wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:51 pm With the demo I have one problem, when I open some project with a lot of plugins, the Blyss will refuse to work, it'll throw some iLok error.

But! If I throw it on empty project first, it'll load properly. Then if I open again that project which it did not work into, it'll work now... maybe its the demo version, or then its Win7 :/

I dont kinda care if it works like that but... :pray:
Maybe the iLok License Manager version? You keeping it up to date? Running a legacy version because of Win 7?

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Strange GUI design...

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:18 pm Strange GUI design...
It's a Kush thing.

kush kaya.jpg
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plexuss wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:04 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:18 pm Strange GUI design...
It's a Kush thing.


kush kaya.jpg
Looks like Klingon starfleet design...

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:43 pm
plexuss wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:04 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:18 pm Strange GUI design...
It's a Kush thing.
Looks like Klingon starfleet design...
Cho'echu! P'Tak! :borg:

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plexuss wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:46 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:43 pm
plexuss wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:04 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:18 pm Strange GUI design...
It's a Kush thing.
Looks like Klingon starfleet design...
Cho'echu! P'Tak! :borg:
Live long and peaceful :pray:

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dblock wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:07 pm
legendCNCD wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:51 pm With the demo I have one problem, when I open some project with a lot of plugins, the Blyss will refuse to work, it'll throw some iLok error.

But! If I throw it on empty project first, it'll load properly. Then if I open again that project which it did not work into, it'll work now... maybe its the demo version, or then its Win7 :/

I dont kinda care if it works like that but... :pray:
Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling?
Not yet, will try.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:26 pm
legendCNCD wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:51 pm With the demo I have one problem, when I open some project with a lot of plugins, the Blyss will refuse to work, it'll throw some iLok error.

But! If I throw it on empty project first, it'll load properly. Then if I open again that project which it did not work into, it'll work now... maybe its the demo version, or then its Win7 :/

I dont kinda care if it works like that but... :pray:
Maybe the iLok License Manager version? You keeping it up to date? Running a legacy version because of Win 7?
I think I updated it a while a go to the latest available, but will try it too again.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene

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Fixed by updating the lisence manager. Phew.

Blyss continues to impress me. That bass distortion+expansion and whole zhebang.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene

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