There's an actual term for that. It's called shrinkflation. Seriously.Googly Smythe wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:37 pm It ain't jus softwere where this sh!t appen, its all over. I bought a can of soup and it was 457 grams. Bit it's a lquid, innit, so it should be in milimeters, enniit, on top of wich, wy not make it an even 500?!?!. I keep emailing the cumpne but do they fix, do they eck.
Why do some plugin devs not accept feature request?
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There are plenty of requests for every plugin I'm involved with from very niche requests to full on major features such as the new browser for DUNE 3 which was one of the most popular requests and why it was added. Even new features generate new requests.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:18 pmI don't think that there are so many different requests as to a certain plugin, in most cases it's one feature or one issue. It's not that someone wants green knobs, someone else blue and someone else yellow knobs.
And indeed some devs even appreciate feature requests and quickly improve their plugins like Pulsar Modular, Kitplugins, Matthew Lane managed to make a lower cpu usage of his Tico comp and some more.
Great to see a reply of AA!
I'm sure every developer appreciates requests as long as we appreciate that not every request can or will be granted. It's when people get upset because their personal request isn't granted that threads like these pop up....
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You know you've hit peak feature saturation when you start getting de-feature requests!Aleksey Vaneev wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:40 am At some point a plugin becomes so feature-saturated that you just do not get feature requests anymore...
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No, in this particular instance, the correct term is ONE POUND because 457 g = 1 lb.kidslow wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:17 pmThere's an actual term for that. It's called shrinkflation. Seriously.Googly Smythe wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:37 pm It ain't jus softwere where this sh!t appen, its all over. I bought a can of soup and it was 457 grams. Bit it's a lquid, innit, so it should be in milimeters, enniit, on top of wich, wy not make it an even 500?!?!. I keep emailing the cumpne but do they fix, do they eck.
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Because no unsolicited suggestions accepted. Crying like a little girl optional.
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"Unsolicited ideas" is a moot topic. What a textual message means without code and schematics? From what I see, Reaper developers do not care, but considering their open idea exchange manner of development, they would be in a trouble a long time ago, if "unsolicited idea" protection had any legal perspective.
Maybe it's another way to tell "we mine features and ideas from the market ourselves, we have a whole department for just that thing".
Maybe it's another way to tell "we mine features and ideas from the market ourselves, we have a whole department for just that thing".
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- KVRist
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First of all I am not upset! Feature requests, issues, bugs seem to be an important topic as you can see, there are quite a lot of posts.Teksonik wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:32 pmThere are plenty of requests for every plugin I'm involved with from very niche requests to full on major features such as the new browser for DUNE 3 which was one of the most popular requests and why it was added. Even new features generate new requests.DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:18 pmI don't think that there are so many different requests as to a certain plugin, in most cases it's one feature or one issue. It's not that someone wants green knobs, someone else blue and someone else yellow knobs.
And indeed some devs even appreciate feature requests and quickly improve their plugins like Pulsar Modular, Kitplugins, Matthew Lane managed to make a lower cpu usage of his Tico comp and some more.
Great to see a reply of AA!
I'm sure every developer appreciates requests as long as we appreciate that not every request can or will be granted. It's when people get upset because their personal request isn't granted that threads like these pop up....
I refered to requests that users or potential customers post to forums like KVRaudio or Youtube or wherever and it´s sually about one request mainly not about all kinds of different requests.
Good example: Matthew Lane, people complaint about high cpu, plugin was updated with less cpu.
For years people complain about AA´s high cpu usage, nothing has changed, but maybe now with their new Fire one knob plugins, I like quick and easy to use one knob plugins, Waves successfuly released one/two knob/slider plugins.
And to say AA uses a different technology, that´s why cpu is higher, is a lame excuse, a lot of devs have proven you can improve cpu, I suppose you need good programmers!?
Softube British Class A console I demoed and it´s nice, but I won´t buy it, just because I know they could make 4 eq bands, instead of only 3, three is too little imo, here I prefer BB N105 (also Neve emu).
I posted 3 examples only, but there are way more, I know a dev who creates great
VSTi instruments, great sound, but buggy, dev knows it, but nothing has changed for many years. And so much more examples, good and bad ones,
- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
Yes, I also know some more plugins or devs.Leo1999 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:29 am I have noticed that there are some devs or plugins with issues and people write
about it, but some devs do not seem to care.
1. Acustica audio high on cpu
I know some people don´t buy AA because of high cpu usage, but AA keeps on
releasing many new plugins, but do not improve cpu. I know some devs who could
improve cpu usage after some complaints.
2. Plugin Alliance Bettermaker sloppy gui
Plugin is good, but gui indeed hurts my eyes and it´s not nice to work with it.
3. Softube released native British Class A, but with 3 eq knobs only
Why releasing a worse version of a great version? The console 1 version has a
low mid and high mid knob!
Pulsarmodular and Kitplugins improved their plugins P42 and BBN105 pretty
quickly after some feature requests!
Do you also know some plugins or devs with known issues or feature requests?
The question is whether an additional feature would really improve a plugin a lot. Well, cpu issues are a category of its own.
The worst thing, though, is when a dev doesn't reply to a bug or issue or feature request at all, even worse when you know you are not the only one with a specific issue. That happened to me three times.
- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
Feature requests I saw in different threads
Waves no oversampling
Is no oversampling or aliasing generally a problem? No! But it can be an issue and using metaplugin
to add os is not always a good solution, because
it can make it sound too bright. I am fine with. Waves, though.
It's funny to see people analyzing a plugin with plugin doctor and detecting some aliasing, but do you really perceive it, does it make your mix sound worse?!
Decapitor is said to be one of the best saturation plugins, many a man uses it, and Decapitor causes a lot of aliasing!
No automatic gain compensation
Most console emulation or channel strips by
Plugin Alliance, Waves, Softube, Eventide do not have it, some other devs do have it.
Imo it's nice to have, but not a must.
AIR no updates / upgrades
I love AIR plugins and use them a lot.
Boom, Strike are great drum plugins
and their synths and pianos are great.
Yes, it would be nice, if AIR added some new modern drum sounds to Strike or offered expansion packs.
I do not know whether their plugins still run
on current windows or mac versions, though.
Arturia long plugin and preset loading times
I like some plugins, but do not use them a lot,
because I have a very fast workflow and their
plugins take too much time for loading
Do you also have this experience or is it just me?
UVI Workstation / Acoustic Samples
Midi stuck notes. This is a really annoying
issue for me. I contacted them, but they did
not reply. Midi stuck notes occur randomly and
UVI Workstation is the only VSTi with midi stuck notes I have.
Harrison Mix 32c
Well, it's a daw and actually not bad, but as a Reaper user I miss a mix wet/dry knob for every plugin. I rarely have a comp set to 100%. It could be a nice second daw for mixing and mastering, but for recording and tracking I am completely satisfied with Reaper and I have customized it to my workflow.
I would like to know whether other daws also have a mix knob for every plugin, I do not think Reaper is the only daw ?!
Acustica Audio
With a better cpu performance I would use their plugins more. It has been posted a hundred times that their plugins are cpu hogs, so it might be true
And if I was AA my main focus would be on improving cpu of already released plugins instead of releasing many new plugins
And I read quite a lot of times that Melda plugins have terrible guis and way too many features. Well it's their way to make plugins!
Waves no oversampling
Is no oversampling or aliasing generally a problem? No! But it can be an issue and using metaplugin
to add os is not always a good solution, because
it can make it sound too bright. I am fine with. Waves, though.
It's funny to see people analyzing a plugin with plugin doctor and detecting some aliasing, but do you really perceive it, does it make your mix sound worse?!
Decapitor is said to be one of the best saturation plugins, many a man uses it, and Decapitor causes a lot of aliasing!
No automatic gain compensation
Most console emulation or channel strips by
Plugin Alliance, Waves, Softube, Eventide do not have it, some other devs do have it.
Imo it's nice to have, but not a must.
AIR no updates / upgrades
I love AIR plugins and use them a lot.
Boom, Strike are great drum plugins
and their synths and pianos are great.
Yes, it would be nice, if AIR added some new modern drum sounds to Strike or offered expansion packs.
I do not know whether their plugins still run
on current windows or mac versions, though.
Arturia long plugin and preset loading times
I like some plugins, but do not use them a lot,
because I have a very fast workflow and their
plugins take too much time for loading
Do you also have this experience or is it just me?
UVI Workstation / Acoustic Samples
Midi stuck notes. This is a really annoying
issue for me. I contacted them, but they did
not reply. Midi stuck notes occur randomly and
UVI Workstation is the only VSTi with midi stuck notes I have.
Harrison Mix 32c
Well, it's a daw and actually not bad, but as a Reaper user I miss a mix wet/dry knob for every plugin. I rarely have a comp set to 100%. It could be a nice second daw for mixing and mastering, but for recording and tracking I am completely satisfied with Reaper and I have customized it to my workflow.
I would like to know whether other daws also have a mix knob for every plugin, I do not think Reaper is the only daw ?!
Acustica Audio
With a better cpu performance I would use their plugins more. It has been posted a hundred times that their plugins are cpu hogs, so it might be true
And I read quite a lot of times that Melda plugins have terrible guis and way too many features. Well it's their way to make plugins!
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
Yes, I wrote that it can be an issue, but no Waves plugin makes my mix sound worse because of aliasing, that's just my experience!. I also use Decapitor sometimes and its aliasing does not bother me.Ploki wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:24 am You can percieve aliasing and it can make your mix sound worse

