general making drums cut through the mix, how to?

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:21 pm
Biome_Digital wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:07 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:21 pm Nobody mentioned a transient shaper!
Adding transients with a shaper can make your mix quieter unless you limit the peaks after - then what's the point! :lol:

In rock mixes it's a good technique for getting the power into rolls/loud dynamic sections - turn up the transients and slam it into a compressor/tape or limiter.
I'll bare that in mind because i do occasionally make a (midi) guitar track.

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:21 pm
Biome_Digital wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:07 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:21 pm Nobody mentioned a transient shaper!
Adding transients with a shaper can make your mix quieter unless you limit the peaks after - then what's the point! :lol:

In rock mixes it's a good technique for getting the power into rolls/loud dynamic sections - turn up the transients and slam it into a compressor/tape or limiter.
Oh yeah, it's more of an advanced technique. I do it myself in some cases. :tu:

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:21 pm
Biome_Digital wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:07 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:21 pm Nobody mentioned a transient shaper!
Adding transients with a shaper can make your mix quieter unless you limit the peaks after - then what's the point! :lol:

In rock mixes it's a good technique for getting the power into rolls/loud dynamic sections - turn up the transients and slam it into a compressor/tape or limiter.
This. I started slamming kicks, snares, and toms into IK Tape Machine 80 and that instantly makes them sound like the drums you're used to hearing on rock albums of the '70s and '80s. A little high and low pass prior to tape can help focus them too.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Get to know what compression can do for drums. Fast attacks can chop off transients, medium attack can make "clicky" transients, slow attack makes the compressor "ride" the signal more than reshape the attacks. Fast release adds distortion and brings up tails (this is rock & roll!), med/slow release adds pumping and vibe.

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imrae wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:02 am Get to know what compression can do for drums. Fast attacks can chop off transients, medium attack can make "clicky" transients, slow attack makes the compressor "ride" the signal more than reshape the attacks. Fast release adds distortion and brings up tails (this is rock & roll!), med/slow release adds pumping and vibe.
Nice summary of using a compressor.

But I want to emphasize my experience: Before the compressor, the EQ
is actually much better. Because it is important to emphasize the specific
frequencies of the drums - mostly snare and kick drum - compared to the
other instruments. This is much more important than the subsequent
compression.
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Well, I never had this problem. The drums tend to sound loud and tight if there's no melody in high frequency range. Often just drums alone on top of low bass is enough to create nice atmoshpere in progressive music.
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smd12 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:10 pm This video helped me

Very good

-thanks!

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