Schoenberg on Zebra

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The cross between Arnold and Zebra sounds surprisingly reminiscent of early 70s BBC Radiophonic Workshop.

Thanks for keeping the flame alive.

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herodotus wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:57 pm...reminiscent of early 70s BBC Radiophonic Workshop...
Ha! Not a conscious influence, but I guess a certain amount of it just soaked in back in those years :-)

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To oversimplify a bit, I'd say that there were roughly 2 different aesthetic sensibilities active in the worlds of "non-pop" music in the 60s and 70s. (I mean production style more than composition.)

The BBC sound was always a lot more 'lo-fi' than the more sterile production quality of the RCA sythesizer studio at Columbia where Babbitt and Luening worked.

It's probably all in my head.

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herodotus wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:31 am To oversimplify a bit, I'd say that there were roughly 2 different aesthetic sensibilities active in the worlds of "non-pop" music in the 60s and 70s. (I mean production style more than composition.)

The BBC sound was always a lot more 'lo-fi' than the more sterile production quality of the RCA sythesizer studio at Columbia where Babbitt and Luening worked.

It's probably all in my head.
BBC probably used more tape and had less money pumped into gear in general. The RCA Babbitt thing was part of the US Cold War strategy to position the US as the generator of the future. Military money funded that period of expansion in US modernism, not that the artists actually knew that necessarily but it was why they could dominate the Western cultural sphere at that time, particularly to client states like Australia. Weird to now realise that Babbitt, Cage, Pollock etc were tools of US imperial propaganda and supported as such

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fairlyclose wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:05 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:31 am To oversimplify a bit, I'd say that there were roughly 2 different aesthetic sensibilities active in the worlds of "non-pop" music in the 60s and 70s. (I mean production style more than composition.)

The BBC sound was always a lot more 'lo-fi' than the more sterile production quality of the RCA sythesizer studio at Columbia where Babbitt and Luening worked.

It's probably all in my head.
BBC probably used more tape and had less money pumped into gear in general. The RCA Babbitt thing was part of the US Cold War strategy to position the US as the generator of the future. Military money funded that period of expansion in US modernism, not that the artists actually knew that necessarily but it was why they could dominate the Western cultural sphere at that time, particularly to client states like Australia. Weird to now realise that Babbitt, Cage, Pollock etc were tools of US imperial propaganda and supported as such

I care nothing of these political considerations. I'm just a stupid drummer. I'm interested in music, not geopolitics. Especially when I'm commenting on someone's rendering of a piece from Schoenberg's expressionist period.

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Except you commented on sound differences between BBC and RCA and I gave a possible explanation for those differences and placed that within an informative social context.
Which made you go all snarky. Lol, what a dick

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I thought calling myself a stupid drummer was enough to lend a tone of humility to my remarks. If I was mistaken, forgive me.

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