Voxengo Elephant 5.0 mastering limiter plugin released

[Aleksey Vaneev]

The “EL-5” algorithm introduced in Elephant version 5 takes the best from “EL-4” and classic “AIGC” algorithms.

The “EL-5” is not as loud and “hard” as the “EL-4” algorithm, but it is much more precise than “AIGC” algorithms while offering an alike smooth sound.

This algorithm better retains dynamical structure of the program material while at the same time adds a unique “sparkling and fresh mojo” to the resulting sound. This algorithm is responsive to the “Timing” and “Rls/Atk Ratio” parameters that can be adjusted to further tune the algorithm.

EL 4 has a pretty good reputation for Electronic Music i.e. it's banging.

Does the above mean it's better for classical - but not so much banging?


(Apologies - it's a dumbed down way to ask the question that we all want to know the answer too )

EL-5 should be as good for electronic music, at slightly lower TransTime values. IMO it's much better than EL-4 overall, maybe quieter just a bit.

[Michey]

EL-5 should be as good for electronic music, at slightly lower TransTime values. IMO it's much better than EL-4 overall, maybe quieter just a bit.

Yes, EL-5 mode and from from I have tried thus far, further tweak with Limiter mode editor (which includes, of course, TransTime values.

[Funkstar De Luxe2]

Wonderful. Been using elephant since v3. Absolute game changer for transparency and usability. Can’t wait to demo this one - although I can barely hear EL4

One question Aleksey - I run my projects at 96kHz. Where does Voxengos oversampling top out? Or is it really capable of 8x 96kHz?

[Aleksey Vaneev]

Wonderful. Been using elephant since v3. Absolute game changer for transparency and usability. Can’t wait to demo this one - although I can barely hear EL4

One question Aleksey - I run my projects at 96kHz. Where does Voxengos oversampling top out? Or is it really capable of 8x 96kHz?

Yes, oversampling in any Voxengo plugin is capable of 8x 96kHz, and 8x of 192kHz, etc. Oversampling is just a multiplication of project's sample rate by a factor.

[Funkstar De Luxe2]

Wonderful. Been using elephant since v3. Absolute game changer for transparency and usability. Can’t wait to demo this one - although I can barely hear EL4

One question Aleksey - I run my projects at 96kHz. Where does Voxengos oversampling top out? Or is it really capable of 8x 96kHz?

Yes, oversampling in any Voxengo plugin is capable of 8x 96kHz, and 8x of 192kHz, etc. Oversampling is just a multiplication of project's sample rate by a factor.

Thank you for the clarification! I should say, I can't hear any difference in oversampling 96kHz, but I just wondered what it was doing

[airon]

Also, IMO, "EL-5" is close to "gamechanger" status, it's a little break-through to me.

I've been using Elephant for many years, but mostly for subtle true peak limiting. I'm on v4 which I'm happy with. If I was making more heavy use, in game audio design, music mixing or mastering for example, then I'd try this and probably buy it right away.

I might still buy the update down the line. Game audio especially can benefit from lots of choices for how to limit, clip or saturate a source, so this EL-5 algorithm may be great to have. I have no project cued up just yet, so I'll wait and see.

Thank you for continueing to develop this plugin.

[okmog]

I've just tested the EL-5 algorithm with EDM (which ended in a 3 hours music session...) and it is absolutely amazing, also prefer it to the EL-4 because of the highs - bought it immediately. Used the Pro L2 so far and didn't expect such a big difference in clarity and punch.

[Guillaume Piolat]

Upgraded and indeed EL-5 respects more the material than EL-4 even at very high gain dB reduction, which is where I prefer Elephant. Using it since 2009 ^^

[Prototype_human]

Wow ! The EL-5 algo is really good ! Huge difference with EL-4 !

[nusound mind]

Grabbed this with a couple other Voxengo plugins a couple weeks ago during the sale so happy to see I get a free upgrade. Haven't tried it much yet but due to it's high praise and the fact that I always use a limiter felt it'd be worth having another option beyond the other couple I use.

[Michey]

I have one FR, if I may :

At really low in/out values (between -16dBFS and -24dBFS output], using the mouse to set the exact value becomes VERY fiddly. VERY (it "jump" in large chunk of values).

If I process against eg.[-21LUFS] it's very inconvenient to set the knob to a preferred value UNLESS one uses the "shift" key (where it becomes way too exact, at 0.1dB intervals - and hence "slow" to move).

A. , can you extend the fine-tuned mouse movements ? not everyone processes against 0dBFS...

[Aleksey Vaneev]

Holding down SHIFT is the only way to have finer Out Gain resolution in lower values. Or you may enter from the keyboard-click on the readout.

[FapFilter]

hi Aleksey,
with all your multiband tools like Soniformer, TEOTE, Peakbuster and Drumformer, as you've mentioned that there is only so much that one can still improve on limiters, what your stance is regarding multiband algorithms for Elephant?
or are there already some that do this under the hood?

[Aleksey Vaneev]

Multi-band limiting in mastering may be problematic, in my opinion. Too much potential influence on spectral balance.

[El°HYM]

Good to see some of the humanoids are using the EL - Algorithm.

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