TOMO Audiolabs - LISA, analog dynamic EQ from PA

[Agreed]

Have to admire the business sense of modeling some things virtually nobody can actually compare ever! PA does know a good idea when they see one! Don't take me too seriously here, pals, I'm just having fun.

I like Lisa, great concept and well executed, works nicely on my guitar tracks. Forever 30.99 has claimed another victim for the first time, all hail Francisco Partners Mergers and acquisitions, baby! This time with tone!

[Synth Master Jedi]

Have to admire the business model of modeling things virtually nobody can actually compare ever! PA does know a good idea when they see one!

That may be true for this EQ, but to be fair, PA also has plenty of other plugins that aren't based on hardware in which only 5 units were ever produced.

I have more than a few PA plugins where I have actually used the hardware before and know them.

[Agreed]

I'm only teasing. It's a mix of accessible and less accessible stuff, with plenty of area in between. I truly do like Lisa (and Shadow Hills Class A, think that was 50 made... And Phil's Cascade and NEOLD stuff, those were purpose-built one-offs... Townhouse compressor, that's one of a kind... The Knifoniums, not exactly unobtainable but deeper pockets required, etc., etc.).

[beely]

I don't have much experience with dynamic EQs.

It's also a passive, parallel EQ too, as well as dynamic, which makes it all kinds of interesting. Passives have particular behaviours, and parallel ones do too, and I still haven't *quite* grokked exactly what's happening with the dynamics on the EQ bands, as different people have been explaining it differently. Some are saying it's affecting the volume of the boost/cut, others are saying it's affecting the curve, it's not entirely clear to me *exactly* how it behaves yet. Kinda fascinating though, and a very unique box.

Some people seem to be mistaking it for a multiband compressor, but it is most definitely not - your dry signal is never compressed, it's only the EQ *changes* that are affected by the dynamics. Although as Weiss explained in his second video, there's a trick of using it kinda *backwards* which is interesting too...

I'm a fan of this one (and was since I googled it when PA announced their forthcoming releases a while back), but am trying to avoid GASing too much at the moment, so while I've been watching the vids, and reading the manual etc, I'll pick it up at some point later most likely, and then actually play with how it behaves...

[beely]

all hail Francisco Partners

F...'ing Profit, innit?

[Synth Master Jedi]

I don't have much experience with dynamic EQs.

It's also a passive, parallel EQ too, as well as dynamic, which makes it all kinds of interesting. Passives have particular behaviours, and parallel ones do too, and I still haven't *quite* grokked exactly what's happening with the dynamics on the EQ bands, as different people have been explaining it differently. Some are saying it's affecting the volume of the boost/cut, others are saying it's affecting the curve, it's not entirely clear to me *exactly* how it behaves yet. Kinda fascinating though, and a very unique box.

Some people seem to be mistaking it for a multiband compressor, but it is most definitely not - your dry signal is never compressed, it's only the EQ *changes* that are affected by the dynamics. Although as Weiss explained in his second video, there's a trick of using it kinda *backwards* which is interesting too...

I'm a fan of this one (and was since I googled it when PA announced their forthcoming releases a while back), but am trying to avoid GASing too much at the moment, so while I've been watching the vids, and reading the manual etc, I'll pick it up at some point later most likely, and then actually play with how it behaves...

It certainly sounds like an interesting EQ that's worth digging more into. Thanks for the info.

[Synth Master Jedi]

F...'ing Profit, innit?

They may be profiting, but the way I see things, I am also profiting, because if this EQ had come out just some months ago, then nobody would have been able to buy it for $31. We would all have had to wait many months or maybe even a year or more before we could buy it for a reasonable price, so I quite like the change.

[Synth Master Jedi]

I'm only teasing. It's a mix of accessible and less accessible stuff, with plenty of area in between. I truly do like Lisa (and Shadow Hills Class A, think that was 50 made... And Phil's Cascade and NEOLD stuff, those were purpose-built one-offs... Townhouse compressor, that's one of a kind... The Knifoniums, not exactly unobtainable but deeper pockets required, etc., etc.).

I agree, they do have a variety of stuff from accessible to less accessible.

Now that you mention it, that was actually one of the things that drew me to PA in the first place and it led me to start getting some of their plugins a while back. I liked that they had some plugins that were based on gear that was maybe a little less common than what you would see everybody else releasing.

[SiliconDeath]

It sounds all right, but wonder why they couldn't make it with lower cpu consumption?

[TIMT]

Hideous eyesore of a UI. Makes zero sense to do something like this ITB

Quirky implementation of a dynamic EQ as well. Took a few listens to realise that the gain for each band also acts like a range control for the dynamic action of each band. I don't find that all that useful to be frank, and it slightly defeats the purpose of a dynamic Eq. Since some part of the boost is going to be static and even if you crank the living daylights out of the global threshold and crank the input, the dynamic part is never doing too much that it would take the band from boost to flat or vice versa (there's always going to be a static gain adjustment in each band whether in expansion or compression mode)

Gonna pass on this one