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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:05 pm

Groove Agent 5 is already migrated, by the way: https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... -Licensing

Just bookmark that page, it gets updated when there are more products migrated to Steinberg Licensing.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:44 pm

chk071 wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:05 pm Groove Agent 5 is already migrated, by the way: https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... -Licensing

Just bookmark that page, it gets updated when there are more products migrated to Steinberg Licensing.

Thank you! I haven't seen that!
Yes indeed, this page did it for me! Goodbye eLicenser!

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:51 pm

EnGee wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:59 pm I've cancelled selling it. I've decided to keep it. It might be the last Cubase version I have if they drop VST2 in the future!

Its already gone on the M1 Macs so I would guess they may be ready to finally kill it for everyone else with Cubase 13. Seems a lot of vendors at least saw it as the push to finally move to VST3 (they were supposed to like 10 years ago). At this point I'm just waiting on Black Rooster and SoundToys (Soundtoys should hopefully be out any time now) and I've only got one single PSP plugin left that hasnt been updated yet. Aside from that, everybody else is on VST3 now. I'm kind of giving up on Absynth 5 ever making it over, but at least I've got Plasmonic to sort of fill those gaps (although Plasmonic is quite a bit different than his old baby).

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:29 pm

Hmmm! I must be careful then of future updates (before v13)! They might just decide to update v12 and delete all the VST2 support! It is very possible!

I don't want only VST3 DAW! So that I kept Studio One also! Let's see what will happen with CLAP and if it will affect Steinberg's decisions in the future.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:32 am

It has always been the case that you could buy an upgrade in the July sale and activate it at some future date to whatever version was valid at the time. So there was no "free upgrade". In my case I had 10.5 and had bought an upgrade some time before which I did not activate. The only reason that I activated it was to get version 11 and the supposed "free upgrade" to version 12, and the dongle license would become "NFR". It now seems that either I was wrong in that assumption or Steinberg moved the goalposts.

We now have the strange situation that some people are required to send a dongle and some do not have to. The dongle + steinberg license is obviously better value and should be worth more.

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:33 pm

dellboy wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:32 am It has always been the case that you could buy an upgrade in the July sale and activate it at some future date to whatever version was valid at the time. So there was no "free upgrade". In my case I had 10.5 and had bought an upgrade some time before which I did not activate. The only reason that I activated it was to get version 11 and the supposed "free upgrade" to version 12, and the dongle license would become "NFR". It now seems that either I was wrong in that assumption or Steinberg moved the goalposts.

We now have the strange situation that some people are required to send a dongle and some do not have to. The dongle + steinberg license is obviously better value and should be worth more.

If you held on to the 11 upgrade code, as long as you activated it after the specified date in November 2021, you would've gotten the free grace period update to 12. If it was done before the date, you only get the 11 upgrade. If you somehow buy a retail copy of 11 right now, when you go to activate it, its going to give you a DAC for Cubase 12. As long as it was after the date posted, you should have gotten your grace period update back in March and if not, you might still need to go click the button to check for any upgrades in the Steinberg Activation Manager. The process wasn't automatic and you had to check yourself once 12 was released.

I haven't seen a single person have to send a dongle in to Steinberg yet, neither here or the Cubase forums.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:53 pm

mothra wrote:
I haven't seen a single person have to send a dongle in to Steinberg yet, neither here or the Cubase forums.

The suggestion is that you post the dongle to the buyer of your license, not to send it to Steinberg.

I have an unactivated license for the Elements version. It has been there for a couple of years. If I choose to activate it, would it not become the latest update at the time of activation?

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:01 am

dellboy wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:53 pm
mothra wrote:
I haven't seen a single person have to send a dongle in to Steinberg yet, neither here or the Cubase forums.
The suggestion is that you post the dongle to the buyer of your license, not to send it to Steinberg.

I have an unactivated license for the Elements version. It has been there for a couple of years. If I choose to activate it, would it not become the latest update at the time of activation?

Ahh yeah thats different, and yeah you do need to give the buyer the 11 eLicenser with it as that's part of the 'upgrade' to 12.

Your Elements should activate and give you whatever the current version is. I was a little sad when I bought Wavelab Pro last month, I was hoping to get an eLicenser code and then move it to the new system, but I bought it the week they migrated it over to the new licensing. The DAC that came from Sweetwater went right to the new Activation Manager and gave me a new license instead.

Cubase Pro 12 -- installation of upgraded license