Advantages / disadvantages Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro

[THE INTRANCER]

Cubase has rounded window corners, making it look more toy like, more dated, and more cluttered compared to Studio One which has clean cut corners, less visual geometry, more tidy and modern looking. Plus Studio One has tabbed windows for it's VST instruments where Cubase doesn't.

[rageix]

[*] Cubase has a better sampler (Sampler Track) than Studio One (Sample XT).

Really?

I never use the Cubase sampler, I find Studio Ones sampler much better. Is there something I am doing wrong? In what way do you find it better?

For me the big thing is with Sample XT, you can't slice in it. You have to do all your slicing in the arranger and then send the sliced auto to a Sample XT. If you are doing like a vocal chop or something it's just painful. Honestly just pull out Serato Sample or something at that point.

Sample XT also doesn't have fade handles. I don't know why that bugs me, but it does.

I just find the Cubase sampler both easier to use and better looking, although Sample XT can do some things that the Cubase sample track can't, but for what I use it for the Cubase sample track is just feels better.

[woodsdenis]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

[THE INTRANCER]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

[EnGee]

Both can host hardware instruments, but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument.

Nope. Cubase can use either the old way (midi and instrument tracks), or simply as an one track external instrument. Whatever you want.

Oh! Is the external instrument a new thing in Cubase 12? I haven't checked it really. How to insert it? I don't have Cubase installed now.

[EnGee]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

What's the problem with v5? I have the latest and everything seems fine.

[ramseysounds]

Both can host hardware instruments, but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument.

Nope. Cubase can use either the old way (midi and instrument tracks), or simply as an one track external instrument. Whatever you want.

Oh! Is the external instrument a new thing in Cubase 12? I haven't checked it really. How to insert it? I don't have Cubase installed now.

you can use external instruments in cubase since forever. Not sure when it was first introduced but certainly a while

[EnGee]

Both can host hardware instruments, but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument.

Nope. Cubase can use either the old way (midi and instrument tracks), or simply as an one track external instrument. Whatever you want.

Oh! Is the external instrument a new thing in Cubase 12? I haven't checked it really. How to insert it? I don't have Cubase installed now.

you can use external instruments in cubase since forever. Not sure when it was first introduced but certainly a while

Yes! Just noticed it! Sorry for the incorrect info! (Still many users, Yamaha gurus for example, are using it with two tracks midi/audio though!).

So, that is a draw between the two S1 and Cubase

[THE INTRANCER]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

What's the problem with v5? I have the latest and everything seems fine.

Studio-5-unstable-compared-to-4-6
https://answers.presonus.com/55681/stud ... red-to-4-6

156 votes relate to this, but whether this huge difference in CPU consumption is fixed or not I don't know.

https://answers.presonus.com/56217/has- ... udio-one-5

https://answers.presonus.com/55501/stil ... 501#q55501

https://answers.presonus.com/58741/stud ... d-glitches

[EnGee]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

What's the problem with v5? I have the latest and everything seems fine.

Studio-5-unstable-compared-to-4-6
https://answers.presonus.com/55681/stud ... red-to-4-6

156 votes relate to this, but whether this huge difference in CPU consumption is fixed or not I don't know.

https://answers.presonus.com/56217/has- ... udio-one-5

https://answers.presonus.com/55501/stil ... 501#q55501

https://answers.presonus.com/58741/stud ... d-glitches

I see!
Have you tried the latest release? For me, I'm using S1 v5.5.2 and I don't have any problem! It is rock solid

[THE INTRANCER]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

What's the problem with v5? I have the latest and everything seems fine.

Studio-5-unstable-compared-to-4-6
https://answers.presonus.com/55681/stud ... red-to-4-6

156 votes relate to this, but whether this huge difference in CPU consumption is fixed or not I don't know.

https://answers.presonus.com/56217/has- ... udio-one-5

https://answers.presonus.com/55501/stil ... 501#q55501

https://answers.presonus.com/58741/stud ... d-glitches

I see!
Have you tried the latest release? For me, I'm using S1 v5.5.2 and I don't have any problem! It is rock solid

I can't try the latest release because I've already tried the S1 5 trial. I have the prime version, but it's hardly a test without VST plugins.

[BONES]

What is missing, your expectations for each of them.

If there was anything missing, I wouldn't be able to use it so that's a question I can't answer. In fact, a big part of why I use it is that it seems to have less stuff crammed into it than Cubase. It doesn't carry around 25+ years of legacy cruft that Cubase is burdened with.

The main reason I use it, though, is the workflow. I don't care about the listt of features much at all but I do care about the workflow, about being able to turn my ideas into finished songs with the fewest roadblocks to stall my creativity. Studio One provides that better than Cubase or Bitwig did, so that's what I use. Maybe there is something else out there that would do that even better but I don't want to spend all my time searching for the perfect DAW, I'd rather spend it making music. I've got something I am comfortable with and that's more than sufficient.

[EnGee]

Apples and oranges really, I found Cubase way more reliable and less buggy than S1, YMMV.

S1 4.6 is pretty much rock solid on PC. V5 was a buggy release apparently, so I stuck with 4.6 besides other reasons. I don't know if this just more so on the Mac than PC however.

What's the problem with v5? I have the latest and everything seems fine.

Studio-5-unstable-compared-to-4-6
https://answers.presonus.com/55681/stud ... red-to-4-6

156 votes relate to this, but whether this huge difference in CPU consumption is fixed or not I don't know.

https://answers.presonus.com/56217/has- ... udio-one-5

https://answers.presonus.com/55501/stil ... 501#q55501

https://answers.presonus.com/58741/stud ... d-glitches

I see!
Have you tried the latest release? For me, I'm using S1 v5.5.2 and I don't have any problem! It is rock solid

I can't try the latest release because I've already tried the S1 5 trial. I have the prime version, but it's hardly a test without VST plugins.

I see. Maybe you can ask the support to reset it for you, or wait and try after some time. I don't think it will stay all v5 releases.

Anyway, from my side, I've never experienced any crash or bad behaviour, only two times. I'll explain.
Once it is a very noticeable latency with my DeepMind synth, but then I quit S1 and tried other hosts (Bitwig and Live) and it was the same latency, so I restarted the PC and then it is gone (solved). It was because of a glitch in the audio interface driver (Tascam).

The second was a horrible lag in performance in Studio One! It was when switched my audio interface with my older one (Presonus iTwo). When I switched back to Tascam US 4x4 HR, it was gone and Studio One runs like a dream.

So, I concluded that many bad bahaviour is actually from the audio interface driver!

Yesterday, I updated my PC motherboard's BIOS and then I had a notification that my PC is ready for Windows 11! Free! So, I installed it and now it runs Studio One without a problem I actually think Windows 11 is smoother than Windows 10! The performance in audio seems identical, i.e. excellent

[THE INTRANCER]

I see. Maybe you can ask the support to reset it for you, or wait and try after some time. I don't think it will stay all v5 releases.

Anyway, from my side, I've never experienced any crash or bad behaviour, only two times. I'll explain.
Once it is a very noticeable latency with my DeepMind synth, but then I quit S1 and tried other hosts (Bitwig and Live) and it was the same latency, so I restarted the PC and then it is gone (solved). It was because of a glitch in the audio interface driver (Tascam).

The second was a horrible lag in performance in Studio One! It was when switched my audio interface with my older one (Presonus iTwo). When I switched back to Tascam US 4x4 HR, it was gone and Studio One runs like a dream.

So, I concluded that many bad bahaviour is actually from the audio interface driver!

Yesterday, I updated my PC motherboard's BIOS and then I had a notification that my PC is ready for Windows 11! Free! So, I installed it and now it runs Studio One without a problem I actually think Windows 11 is smoother than Windows 10! The performance in audio seems identical, i.e. excellent

My PC is stuck with Windows 10 forever or some Linux version due to non-compliant hardware. And I like to have my taskbar stuck to the right side of my screen on auto hide. So Microsoft can go screw themselves whilst I still run Windows 7 for online fps games. If S1 becomes dependent on Windows 11, well that's a lot of people screwed.

[jinotsuh]

It is rock solid

Never a truer word spoken