SKnote releases F76 - Detailed model of THE classic FET compressor. Full DEMO.

[quintosardo]

F76 updated online, Retail and Demo!

[quintosardo]

Well, Demo updated now, please download it again if you already had.

[quintosardo]

AAX updated (including demo, of course)! Win and Mac (graphical issue on some installations)

[Plajia]

[quintosardo]

Mac AU/VST updated! (Didn't like Sierra so much, some old lib issue).

[Kr3eM]

It features our new registration system that makes registration transparent and immediate ...

Still machine ID locked (C/R) DRM I assume...

No, no limits.

Will this be updated to AnyTesla and the others with the old system?

Yes, of course, all of them.

So I downloaded the Disto BETA and according to the read me file:

Disto v.3 - Installation

NOTE: if this is the first plugin with the new registration system, the first instance you'll open will prompt you for the username and password you use to access the Webshop and your user area.
While the workstation is online, insert username and password in the fields and hit enter. The plugin will register the workstation for you in a second. This procedure won't be needed for further installations/plugins on the same workstation.
If this is NOT the first one, the plugin needs the workstation to be online when opened for the first time. It will self-register in a second.
The plugin DOESN'T require the workstation to be online for normal use. The plugin DOESN'T rely on any server. It can make use of a connection if you hit "info" in the bottom-right corner. A message (e.g. "A new preset bank available for download") could be visible under your username and plugin's version"

This sounds like nothing really changed, it's the same machine ID locked authorization system but just somewhat automated with a login credential prompt. So from what I understand, not only is it still Machine ID locked but it now also needs a online connection to authorize. In other words you made it even more limited than before.
....and what does this even mean?

The plugin DOESN'T rely on any server. It can make use of a connection if you hit "info" in the bottom-right corner.

Make use of a connection? A connection of what and to what? The astral plane drm dimension of no limits?

I feel like I'm getting gaslighted AF...


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[quintosardo]

This is a thread about F76. Anyway.

It is automated and not machine locked. You need a connection only for the very first activation.

A (n internet) connection can be used when you use it, mainly to report the availability of an update. But you can just ignore this part.

[Kr3eM]

This is a thread about F76. Anyway.

It is automated and not machine locked. You need a connection only for the very first activation.

A (n internet) connection can be used when you use it, mainly to report the availability of an update. But you can just ignore this part.

It doesn't matter which thread it is when it's about the new authorization system that you have declared to be the new one for all your plugins...it's on topic.

If it needs a connection for the first time in order to activate then THAT IS THE DEFINITION A LIMITATION.

And if it's not locked to the machine then can I activate it on a machine and then move the dll file to another offline machine and it will work and be authorized?

[quintosardo]

I usually prefer a thread to stay on topic but who cares.
Yes but you have to set files, configurations, frameworks, data manually. The plugin checks and does it all in a moment the first time you launch it.
Can you simply expose your concern and maybe I'll able to make it clearer?
Do you want to be sure you won't loose 49.99$ if you change your machine after we are all dead (as persons or business)?

[Kr3eM]

I usually prefer a thread to stay on topic but who cares.

Is it not the same activation system for Disto3 Beta and F76? If the answer is yes, then this is literally on topic.

Yes but you have to set files, configurations, frameworks, data manually. The plugin checks and does it all in a moment the first time you launch it.
Can you simply expose your concern and maybe I'll able to make it clearer?

Dependencies are relationships of reliance within and among infrastructure assets and systems that must be maintained for those systems to work. As a customer this is something I consider to be of importance for various reason.

I choose to support developers who has a portable approach with no or as little dependencies as possible, specially when it comes to proprietary dependencies, which the major one usually is the DRM/Activation/license management system.

That's one reason I became a customer of your a long time ago...I was hoping the continue that with this "new no limits activation" after the introduction of the last Challenge Response keyfile authorization.

If I can find a way get this new activation system to work as portable as it was before when you had custom watermark drm then I would continue to be a customer. It doesn't matter if I manually have to move system/frameworks/config files and so on.... I already do that with most of my serial activated plugin installers. I only need to know what files and their locations... I suppose I can try the Disto Beta and see if the online activation writes any registry keys so I can track the files down.

Do you want to be sure you won't loose 49.99$ if you change your machine after we are all dead (as persons or business)?

I'm not sure if it's intended or not but I get the impression that you are trying to diminsh or even ridicule my concerns and that would be quite condesending...but I choose to believe that you would not do such a thing intentionally.

[quintosardo]

Uh? No, I'm honestly trying to understand, as it is useful. I'm n.1 of concerns on this kind of things myself.

Before that, I'm trying to understand if this is a both-ways-respectful conversation. From this side, it 100% is and I'm honestly trying to understand the subject.

[Kr3eM]

Uh? No, I'm honestly trying to understand, as it is useful. I'm n.1 of concerns on this kind of things myself.

Before that, I'm trying to understand if this is a both-ways-respectful conversation. From this side, it 100% is and I'm honestly trying to understand the subject.

I have no ill will, I have always had a respectful approach everytime I have had a conversation with you, this time is no different. Needless to say, you may pick up on my frustration regarding this topic, but that by itself does not mean any disrespect from my part.

I don't want to have software or plugins that are needs any proprietary dependencies that are not freely distributed, that goes for installations, activations and anything else a developer/company have sole control over.

Let me put it this way, a simple dll file that only needs to be put in the plugin directory is the optimal...anything else is a scale of dependencies which ends with the worst possible version which is always online DRM.

If I can sit in a self sufficient air gapped bunker and install the plugins on a new machine an get it to work while the rest of the world burns to the ground that's a 10 of 10....yes it's hyperbolic, but the point should be obvious.

So if the new activation system isn't any kind of Challenge Response system then the same activation, framework and config setup would be possible to make it work locally.

[quintosardo]

You make me wonder: what do you think of subscriptions?

(As we are often asked about going or not that way)

[Kr3eM]

You make me wonder: what do you think of subscriptions?

(As we are often asked about going or not that way)

Really? I'm suprised you even need to ask, also very suprised you're fine with going off topic.

I guess I have to see when I have time if I can work out it with Disto3 Beta and see if I actually can transfer it to another offline machine, then wait and see if it's the same for the updated versions when they appear in my account.

I leave it at that, I have to go and do some BF shopping while it last.

[dayjob]

You make me wonder: what do you think of subscriptions?

(As we are often asked about going or not that way)

i'm not into subscriptions. i have enough monthly bills and much prefer to buy just the plugins i need instead of all the things a developer makes.

if a dev offers subscription model only then that's a deal breaker for me and i'll ignore their products.

subscription as an option is fine so long as a perpetual license is also available. just my 2 cents. opinions vary of course.. but subscriptions make no sense for me.