Auto-Tune inventor Dr. Andy Hildebrand wins Grammy and celebrates with limited time promo price

[DCrown]

One of the greatest artists of all time used Linn Drums. At the beginning drummers were afraid of loosing their jobs, that was the only thing. And a Linn drum was not overused like Autotune.
A wah sound on every guitar would not be cool, I guess, but Autotune is cool? I don't think so. Autotune is mainly used due to lack of talent and ideas and an embarrassing addiction to repetition.
@fese
Your comment is completely ot
To compare the variety of many different synths to Autotune, bravo !!!

Have you ever recorded vocals before? Pitch correction will not save a bad performance... comping will, which is also a technique that was used during the days of tape. I guess every record that has spliced vocal takes on tape is fake, foney and bad.

I'm waiting for all these AI papers to finally release their speech to speech transfer and vocal re-performance AI programs so then you can understand what performance alteration will truly sound like.

I have recorded a very lot of vocals and watched a lot of singers perform live to know that they all don't need autotune and probably would not even accept to use it.
Hype autotune, keep on hyping it, it never impressed me and never will and keep on bringing examples of the past that have no relation to autotune at all.
Everyone is free to share his opinion.
The influence of autotune on music in the past years is big, unfortunately you can hear it, too many scaring examples

[SeeingInMidi]

One of the greatest artists of all time used Linn Drums. At the beginning drummers were afraid of loosing their jobs, that was the only thing. And a Linn drum was not overused like Autotune.
A wah sound on every guitar would not be cool, I guess, but Autotune is cool? I don't think so. Autotune is mainly used due to lack of talent and ideas and an embarrassing addiction to repetition.
@fese
Your comment is completely ot
To compare the variety of many different synths to Autotune, bravo !!!

Have you ever recorded vocals before? Pitch correction will not save a bad performance... comping will, which is also a technique that was used during the days of tape. I guess every record that has spliced vocal takes on tape is fake, foney and bad.

I'm waiting for all these AI papers to finally release their speech to speech transfer and vocal re-performance AI programs so then you can understand what performance alteration will truly sound like.

I have recorded a very lot of vocals and watched a lot of singers perform live to know that they all don't need autotune and probably would not even accept to use it.
Hype autotune, keep on hyping it, it never impressed me and never will and keep on bringing examples of the past that have no relation to autotune at all.
Everyone is free to share his opinion.
The influence of autotune on music in the past years is big, unfortunately you can hear it, too many scaring examples

You missed my point entirely. Autotune will not fix a bad performance.

[DCrown]

One of the greatest artists of all time used Linn Drums. At the beginning drummers were afraid of loosing their jobs, that was the only thing. And a Linn drum was not overused like Autotune.
A wah sound on every guitar would not be cool, I guess, but Autotune is cool? I don't think so. Autotune is mainly used due to lack of talent and ideas and an embarrassing addiction to repetition.
@fese
Your comment is completely ot
To compare the variety of many different synths to Autotune, bravo !!!

Do you only recognize satire when it hits you on the head??
I was just poking a little fun at the luddite comments here. Technology has always been used and misused. Nothing new there, it’s just your personal bias that lets you focus on AT…

(And yeah, Linn drum has been severely overused. Ever heard of Stock Aitken Waterman? )

No, do I personally know you to know your sense of humor?

[jamcat]

Roger Linn has ruined the pop music in the 80s by inventing the modern drum machine. As well as Dave Smith and Kakehashi who ruined pop music by inventing MIDI. Before that, people needed to have real talent and play instruments, after that, anyone with a sequencer could make “music” by sticking patterns together and producing the same lifeless pop music that hurts our ears until today.
And don’t get me started on synthesizers. Whoever invented those was the devil!

I agree with all of this.

Funny thing is most of the people whining wouldn't be able to pick out transparent pitch correction without an A/B test. It's the equivalent of those who whine about aliasing ONLY AFTER analysing a plugin through plugindoctor.. All the sudden they magically hear the aliasing that's folding back at -40dB/17k hz.

This too.

[DCrown]

One of the greatest artists of all time used Linn Drums. At the beginning drummers were afraid of loosing their jobs, that was the only thing. And a Linn drum was not overused like Autotune.
A wah sound on every guitar would not be cool, I guess, but Autotune is cool? I don't think so. Autotune is mainly used due to lack of talent and ideas and an embarrassing addiction to repetition.
@fese
Your comment is completely ot
To compare the variety of many different synths to Autotune, bravo !!!

Have you ever recorded vocals before? Pitch correction will not save a bad performance... comping will, which is also a technique that was used during the days of tape. I guess every record that has spliced vocal takes on tape is fake, foney and bad.

I'm waiting for all these AI papers to finally release their speech to speech transfer and vocal re-performance AI programs so then you can understand what performance alteration will truly sound like.

I have recorded a very lot of vocals and watched a lot of singers perform live to know that they all don't need autotune and probably would not even accept to use it.
Hype autotune, keep on hyping it, it never impressed me and never will and keep on bringing examples of the past that have no relation to autotune at all.
Everyone is free to share his opinion.
The influence of autotune on music in the past years is big, unfortunately you can hear it, too many scaring examples

You missed my point entirely. Autotune will not fix a bad performance.

You completely missed the point and obviously don't seem to know why most people want to use autotune, in order to fix! And autotune makes people think they could sing, even though they don't know to sing at all, "no problem, autotune will fix it!" and you can hear the results on so many many tracks
Autotune is not new, it exists more than 15 years and especially as an effect totally overused.
Dr Aloisious Fink even wrote that Autotune should be fined for having spoilt music and autotune was rewarded, it's almost funny
It's not about performance skills, soul, originality or virtuosity any more, welcome to 2023!

[SeeingInMidi]

One of the greatest artists of all time used Linn Drums. At the beginning drummers were afraid of loosing their jobs, that was the only thing. And a Linn drum was not overused like Autotune.
A wah sound on every guitar would not be cool, I guess, but Autotune is cool? I don't think so. Autotune is mainly used due to lack of talent and ideas and an embarrassing addiction to repetition.
@fese
Your comment is completely ot
To compare the variety of many different synths to Autotune, bravo !!!

Have you ever recorded vocals before? Pitch correction will not save a bad performance... comping will, which is also a technique that was used during the days of tape. I guess every record that has spliced vocal takes on tape is fake, foney and bad.

I'm waiting for all these AI papers to finally release their speech to speech transfer and vocal re-performance AI programs so then you can understand what performance alteration will truly sound like.

I have recorded a very lot of vocals and watched a lot of singers perform live to know that they all don't need autotune and probably would not even accept to use it.
Hype autotune, keep on hyping it, it never impressed me and never will and keep on bringing examples of the past that have no relation to autotune at all.
Everyone is free to share his opinion.
The influence of autotune on music in the past years is big, unfortunately you can hear it, too many scaring examples

You missed my point entirely. Autotune will not fix a bad performance.

You completely missed the point and obviously don't seem to know why most people want to use autotune, in order to fix! And autotune makes people think they could sing, even though they don't know to sing at all, "no problem, autotune will fix it!" and you can hear the results on so many many tracks
Dr Aloisious Fink even wrote that Autotune should be fined for having spoilt music and autotune was rewarded, it's almost funny
It's not about performance skills, soul or virtuosity any more, welcome to 2023!

Auto-tune can give the false perception to someone that they can sing. But if the input is trash, the output will be tuned trash.

Top earning artists of today are not successful because of pitch correction. It's just a tool. Let's move on from this.

[DCrown]

Photoshop - EVERYone is beautiful (in an artificial almost perfect way)
Daws - everyone is a music producer
Autotune - everyone can sing
Social media - everyone is a star
Smart phones - you can reach me 24 hours EVERY day, I am important!
Waves RBass - more bass for EVERYone please! (lol)

With also positive aspects, but, well...
I don't care...

[revvy]

Internet: everyone gets a public platform even if their ideas are not worth hearing.

The list is endless.

[martinjuenke]

To the OP: don’t know if you care, but it is considered rude to write in all caps in a forum, very bad style, it’s the equivalent of shouting loudly in public.

IMO this ALL CAPS mode is perfectly suited to AUTO-TUNE.
Shouting out overloud I'm here.
Spooky and awkward.

[DCrown]

@revvy
Yep, it's pretty much the same with about 75.000 daily uploads of music or audio.
(Almost) Everyone has the right and can get affordable tools to produce music.
Everyone can use autotune.
Everyone share his opinion.
An opinion mostly gets some feedback
when it does not match someone else's opinion

[jamcat]

..anyways, the industry has moved past the autotune discussion since 2010 2009.

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[revvy]

I li-i-i-ke we-e-e-ll used Auto-o-o Tu-u-ne.

[Scotty]

Auto tune and similar products has defined entire vocal sounds and can be used creatively … Think Bon Iver , T Pain

I spent about 8 hours last week fixing a weak performance using Melodyne and REvoice 4. It wasn’t my preference but these tools are getting insane. The artist is going to retrack the vocals but sonically speaking it isn’t necessary. I am not making a moral stance here, just pointing out that these tools can be used creatively and yeah they can polish turds. The genie isn’t going back in the bottle for better or for worse. Pitch correction has been with us since the early sampler days. The debate is 25 years old now.

You missed my point entirely. Autotune will not fix a bad performance.

[SeeingInMidi]

Auto tune and similar products has defined entire vocal sounds and can be used creatively … Think Bon Iver , T Pain

I spent about 8 hours last week fixing a weak performance using Melodyne and REvoice 4. It wasn’t my preference but these tools are getting insane. The artist is going to retrack the vocals but sonically speaking it isn’t necessary. I am not making a moral stance here, just pointing out that these tools can be used creatively and yeah they can polish turds. The genie isn’t going back in the bottle for better or for worse. Pitch correction has been with us since the early sampler days. The debate is 25 years old now.

You missed my point entirely. Autotune will not fix a bad performance.

Yeah, melodyne can polish a bad take to an extent until it starts producing obvious artifacts. Wait until you see what these developers have in store for us in terms of AI .

[jamcat]

Pitch correction can't fix bad tone or inject personality or confidence into a performance. If you have those down, you can get away with bad pitch.