The Threat of A.I over Music.

[GusGranite]

Sure, I'd be happy to discuss that! In the near future, AI music technology could bring several benefits, such as generating personalized music, aiding in composition, and enhancing music production. However, there are potential downsides like concerns about creativity and originality, as well as the possibility of over-reliance on AI-generated content. It's crucial to balance the advantages with ethical considerations and the preservation of human artistic expression.

[vurt]

one con is the amount of pointless threads about ai.

[runagate]

Something I've been trying to interest people in for 20 years is the automated analysis of the musical characteristics of audio using evolutionary algorithms and using that as exemplar data for machine learning. The main thing you could use that for is to match music performance input from multimodal interfaces to implement multiparameter control over sound generators to output dynamic musical audio based on the desired output. This sounds like gibberish, I know, but imagine how heretofore you could input commands (normally ballistic keyboard data which contains only pitch and velocity, expanded ever so slightly by MPE more recently) and that would map 1:1 to some synth parameters. For time-domain expression you typically only get ADSR. There have been various schemes to implement dynamic spectral envelopes, or concatenative synthesis, but not many things respond to post-attack controller inputs in the way real instruments would. The point isn't necessarily to emulate real instruments, but being able to do so is a good metaphor for what will eventually be possible. Imagine, for instance, playing a note on a violin and change the way you're bowing, or lessening the pressure on a string to change to a harmonic. Then expand that idea of any desired set of input gestures which can be changed over time and a desired cluster of outputs which could be an absurdly large space of possibilities which link parameters in a nonlinear way and result in all sorts of expressive sound characteristic targets and in order to generate those behaviors AI could call upon any type of synthesis or dsp modules, harnessing whatever signal chain works best, to match the targeted dynamic audio characteristics.

I once had a waist-high stack of notebooks architecting all of that and much more, while rolling my eyes at MIDI 2.0 plodding along.

[vurt]

fyi dasen asks a lot of questions, but i don't recall seeing him return to threads very often, if ever...

[foosnark]

Do we really need a brand new thread asking the same basic question about AI several times a week?

[vurt]

Do we really need a brand new thread asking the same basic question about AI several times a week?

it's the new "what's your favourite reverb?"

[Jafo]

Pro: since it's modeled on examples, you'll get more of the same.

Con: since it's modeled on examples, you'll get more of the same.

[GusGranite]

Do we really need a brand new thread asking the same basic question about AI several times a week?

it's the new "what's your favourite reverb?"

Exactly what I thought. Hence my ChatGPT response

[harryupbabble]

if ai can examine a famous song and tells me what gear i need
to duplicate that sound then that might be a good thing

heck, maybe ai itsef could create the vsts that are needed
to duplicate jimmy page's guitar sounds, for example

jimmy page's business people woud probably object

but who could stop that?
people will go underground with their ai and carry on?

so, ai could replace vst developers, daw makers, etc

ai coud automate the creation of softwares
"buy this ai and create a daw, no need to be a programmer"

so, the vst developers will become ai developers?

[vurt]

ai did this.

[? ? ?]

Calling it A.I. needs to stop. Intelligence is the conscious awareness of information that can be utilized. Computers are not "aware" they just perform whatever syntax is fed to fhem by intelligence (human nerds).
Instead of calling it Artificial Intelligence just call it Quick Responder of Stored Information -or-
QROSI the Mighty.
So QROSI The Mighty Made the Beach Boys sing NIN. Wonderful.

[vurt]

computer says "no"

[elxsound]

Calling it A.I. needs to stop. Intelligence is the conscious awareness of information that can be utilized. Computers are not "aware" they just perform whatever syntax is fed to fhem by intelligence (human nerds).
Instead of calling it Artificial Intelligence just call it Quick Responder of Stored Information -or-
QROSI the Mighty.
So QROSI The Mighty Made the Beach Boys sing NIN. Wonderful.

But isn’t the fate of QROSI to become AI?

[? ? ?]

That's just the thing, there is no such thing as "artificial" intelligence. One is either aware or it is not. QROSI has no awareness and therefore cannot rebel for any purpose. It has no emotion.

[mgw38]

Benn Jordan released and excellent video this week. He is one of the few people who seem to really get where the potential lies.