Making music is so cheap nowadays

[vurt]

as a working class hero, im all for the democratisation of music

punks not dead mofos!

[Aloysius]

How did Neil Young get in here?

[harryupbabble]

he must have come in through the bathroom window

[classic]

I believe that we should look at two different things to understand what exactly is happening.
People, from a certain age, know how to recognize and appreciate high-quality music.
People of a younger age have grown up with a completely different kind of demand for quality.
Sometime after the 90s.

1. Everything is cheap, available everywhere, fast and wasteable. Everyone is just as good and great as everyone else, you are suggested. Don't take your cue from the big name, do your thing, they say. And there we are, in the present.

2. The beginners don't want to learn anything more from the big ones, they know everything better, have an ego that tells them that they are unique and individual.
Sure they are free to be unique and individual, but please, this should include quality, big time.

And that's exactly what modern music sounds like. No idea about the basics. Disrespectful to the real masters, an ego as big as a school bus, and everything has to be fast, cheap and preferably automatic.

Cheap, without meaning, warmth and heard.

Did I forget something? I am sure I did.

I would like to note that I am very aware that there are exceptions.

But all this is just my opinion.

[harryupbabble]

frank sinatra said the same thing about the beatles?

[Bombadil]

You don't have to go searching for good music, that's fine.

But you could at least refrain from putting down those of us who make music today. Especially when you admit you have no actual basis for it (beyond the vague claim of "studies show...").

You've basically just told everyone here that their music (whether the stuff they create, or the stuff they enjoy) is garbage. Without even having bothered to listen to it yourself. To each their own, indeed

You are putting words in my mouth. Don't do that. I am referring to the pap that is produced for the masses, songs written by committee, autotune, and all the other crap that my generation didn't need and is contemptuous of.
And, yep; studies show. I don't do other people's homework for them. Go research it yourself.
I've heard some great stuff from members here at KVR. I rarely comment in the cafe forum, but I do for music that I think is well executed and recorded.
So, if you want to play victim due to my words, please feel free. My thoughts and feelings have absolutely nothing to do with you.

[MadDogE134]

yeah it is cheaper... but so is the music lol

[zerocrossing]

If people lived forever, the bitching and moaning about how music “was better back in the day” would become deafening.

It’s especially fascinating to me that it happens every generation, and like clockwork, each generation declares that “now it’s really happening.”

I suggest anyone go to the Billboard chart archives and look at what made it into the top 100 “in the good old days.” So much of it is terrible MOR crap. Lots of weird novelty songs. Most of it you have never heard of, because no one bothered to remember it. So we have some false idea that music was better, because we only remember the good stuff. Time heals all wounds.

I’m an old duff, but I have a 10 year old, so I’m hearing a lot of modern stuff now. Like it’s always been, much of it is mediocre, but there are a few gems. That Billie Eilish woman’s got it going on, as the kids say. The first Lorde album was a great pop album too. Lizzo’s got some great funk/disco tunes as well. Maybe those are all women because my daughter is drawn to them. Not sure.

[Bombadil]

Hmmm. I get the analogy, but it doesn't really fit. Teenagers my age didn't bother with Sinatra, or Bing, or even Neil Sedaka. Otoh, plenty of young people love classic rock, and the more astute among them understand the difference between music made 50-55 years ago, and now. I know people of all ages who love the Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Floyd, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, the Police, U2, and on and on. Their feelings about contemporary music mirrors my own. I see it all the time in the YT comment sections. 'Wish I'd have been born then!' is something I' e read over and over.

[Bombadil]

And guitar teachers,born long after the music they're teaching. Why is that, exactly? So old farts like me can learn stuff we already know?

[Bombadil]

And really, my intentions are not to piss in anyone's Wheaties. Rather, I think musicians/songwriters should aspire to being better at their craft. Be the Next Big Thing. It's a challenge.

[vurt]

'Wish I'd have been born then!' is something I' e read over and over.

because no one has played them the other stuff that was happening.
it's like looking back at the era of punk , and thinking everything in the charts was punk, when the reality was quite different.

alongside the beatles and stones, there was plenty of dross too.

twenty years from now, some kid will be listening to the gorillaz and wishing they were born now as it was all cool cartoon apes

[Bombadil]

There's always dross. But there are the Immortals.

[vurt]

you mean the jams? damn straight!
they're justified and! ancient.

"kick out the jams mother f**kers"

uh huh uh huh!

[vurt]

yes, ive not long returned from my visit, and hit the shrubbery!