Global Modulators and Track Modulators

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xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:17 pm Of course, there is additive and multiplicative automation too, but these are not convenient when working with looped materials(if it is able to work with these kinds of stuffs anyway).
Why is it inconvenient, I don't quite understand?
xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:17 pm
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...I use track modulators mostly for automation through macro "proxies", as direct automation 'blocks' the control to which it is assigned, it can only be modified by temporarily suspending the automation.
.... so, I automate the offset on the target control instead of the target itself. big + that it can be assigned to multiple targets (with different amounts) or can be put even to the group tracks too, so it can be used far more practically.
Wow! I've been thinking about this not so long ago - how to simplify the work with automation with the help of some hand-made device that could somehow do automation from a certain point in the track. Now I understand how to do it, thank you!

You work on Launcher clips, I don't use them. I use tracks. But the essence of the work will not change. I just put the cursor at the right moment of the automation start, turn on the automation recording mode and start recording. I adjust, if necessary, the depth of impact, right? At the same time, the main types of automation can be always at hand in global modulators. Convenient!

I see only one BUT. The shape of the automation curve. Your method is good for one form of automation curve. But what if I want other forms ? Create new global modulators ?

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when I last checked, the partially looped free running additive curve on looped materials was displayed/worked incorrectly while I modified it with an absolute curve. But now it appears correctly, so never mind :)

this case
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xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:44 am ...
I wasn't happy for long, I found a bug! Intermediate modulators , in track modulators do not work after saving and reopening the project ! Settings are not saved! In my video, this is knob " SC Segments".

At the same time, intermediate modulating via Tool modulators is preserved when the project is reopened. Well, at least some solution to the problem, Although not very convenient. In my case, this is "SC Segments 2", which regulates the depth of the sidechain for Pan.

Check for yourself, on my Bitwig it is.
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xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:17 pm in the OP " panels into "Project" and "Track" appeared, it would seem very convenient. But I use these functions less often than I would like."

I use track modulators mostly for automation through macro "proxies", as direct automation 'blocks' the control to which it is assigned, it can only be modified by temporarily suspending the automation. Of course, there is additive and multiplicative automation too, but these are not convenient when working with looped materials(if it is able to work with these kinds of stuffs anyway).

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so, I automate the offset on the target control instead of the target itself. big + that it can be assigned to multiple targets (with different amounts) or can be put even to the group tracks too, so it can be used far more practically.
I misunderstood you when I wrote that I would like to use hand-made devices to do automation (using global modulators). It's impossible, I tried. automation is not written from the modulation knobs..Alas.

And your method has certain amenities. As I understand it, you can easily disable automation by disabling the macro with the Alt +A command, right?

In general, from the first uses of Bitwig, I noticed that for some reason it is not very convenient to implement the ability to disable automation. And all automation is not turned off at all.

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right :) btw. as I can see I am able to save their states, I'm using it on mac 5.1beta5,

on youtube XNB creates watchable videos about Bitwig like this one
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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xbitz wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:54 pm ...on youtube XNB creates watchable videos about Bitwig like this one
I subscribed to it for a long time, it perfectly explains

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