getting fed up with getting nowhere in my tunes
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- KVRist
- 324 posts since 23 Apr, 2015
I like to imagine something like a movie scene, or a dream, something visual, then pretend I am hired to write a soundtrack for those images. And I like to think that I have to communicate something with the tune, like telling a story, no words allowed. Works very often.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
that's a good idea; thanks.lmv wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:05 pm I like to imagine something like a movie scene, or a dream, something visual, then pretend I am hired to write a soundtrack for those images. And I like to think that I have to communicate something with the tune, like telling a story, no words allowed. Works very often.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
"Noah's Ark of Sounds" Ha! I really like that! Nice.Joliciel wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:58 am I appreciate the feedback from everyone on this journey of music creation.
In my experience, I’ve found that the creative process thrives best when judgment and rational thinking take a back seat. When I allow these elements to dominate, my music feels disconnected from who I am. Instead, I trust my intuition and let the rhythm of my thoughts guide me. Creating music is about tapping into the emotional melodies that emerge spontaneously, which can lead to ideas I never anticipated. It’s this pleasure of creation that truly resonates within me.
I understand the frustrations shared here—feeling stuck or overwhelmed by the tools at our disposal is something we all encounter. mjolnir, I can relate to your feelings of frustration and the urge to start fresh by deleting everything. However, I resonate with the idea of simplifying our approach. Limiting our tools, whether it's plugins or samples, can actually spark creativity. Embracing a minimalist perspective—like having just a few sounds, akin to a "Noah's Ark of sounds"—can sometimes lead to breakthroughs.
I think exploring different DAWs and reducing the clutter can help you reconnect with your music. It’s great to hear you’re finding some improvement with your new setup. The journey of creating can be slow and challenging, but every small step counts.
Ultimately, it’s about finding joy in the process and allowing ourselves to explore music without the weight of expectation. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts—let’s keep inspiring one another!
Good idea. Peace be with ya.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 25 Nov, 2024
New here. But a long time music writer and pro audio tech.
Another thing that might be worth trying is to change the order of how you interact with your software. Start with an idea, then use the software to make it happen. Don’t even turn your computer on until you know what you’re going to do with it. Or, if you already have something going, listen to it and make notes of things you like/don’t like. Then plan how to address the dislikes, then turn the computer on.
It can have a sort of ‘different part of your brain’ effect that can be useful to experiment with when you’re a little stuck.
Happy writing!
Another thing that might be worth trying is to change the order of how you interact with your software. Start with an idea, then use the software to make it happen. Don’t even turn your computer on until you know what you’re going to do with it. Or, if you already have something going, listen to it and make notes of things you like/don’t like. Then plan how to address the dislikes, then turn the computer on.
It can have a sort of ‘different part of your brain’ effect that can be useful to experiment with when you’re a little stuck.
Happy writing!
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
Yeah, that's kinda how I'd been working some of the time. Good idea.thisisntrob wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:24 pm New here. But a long time music writer and pro audio tech.
Another thing that might be worth trying is to change the order of how you interact with your software. Start with an idea, then use the software to make it happen. Don’t even turn your computer on until you know what you’re going to do with it. Or, if you already have something going, listen to it and make notes of things you like/don’t like. Then plan how to address the dislikes, then turn the computer on.
It can have a sort of ‘different part of your brain’ effect that can be useful to experiment with when you’re a little stuck.
Happy writing!
It's probably time to mix it up again like you said.
Part of the problem is that I just don't get ideas like I used to.
I think something broke inside my brain. The musical ideas just don't flow anymore. Whereas months ago (while I was homeless) I had so many musical ideas I couldn't keep up with and had no place to save them or make them real. Now I've got the gear and no ideas.
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- KVRAF
- 3347 posts since 21 May, 2010
Maybe start with no expectations, and two or three notes followed by a few other notes, then repeat, then repeat with variations -- just to "prime the pump" so to speak.
Maybe aim for a scrap or two each day, instead of a masterpiece. Collect some scraps over time, and make something of the best ones.
Maybe when the DAW is open and you have an instrument track loaded and armed for recording, that could be a time to meditate for a moment* -- whether by following the breath or vaguely remembering an internal mantra and allowing its memory to dissolve.
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* If you don't have time to meditate for a moment, meditate for two moments.
Maybe aim for a scrap or two each day, instead of a masterpiece. Collect some scraps over time, and make something of the best ones.
Maybe when the DAW is open and you have an instrument track loaded and armed for recording, that could be a time to meditate for a moment* -- whether by following the breath or vaguely remembering an internal mantra and allowing its memory to dissolve.
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* If you don't have time to meditate for a moment, meditate for two moments.
- KVRAF
- 2877 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
Some really good advice there imo. Especially the second line. The list of ppl who've made great stuff with not so great stuff is nearly endless. Remember that an artist is almost always their own worst critic.jethrobull wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:52 am Don't delete anything, ever.
Buying more software/gear isn't going to be the answer either.
I've no idea how much time you spend on your hobby, but maybe a break is the answer?
Unfortunately I feel I never get enough time doing the things I love, but that just makes the time I do spend more important.
Also, good advice from thecontrolcentre. Limiting your options and using only a handful of tools always worked for me.
Hope you find your way out and feel good about producing again![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
If I'm completely stuck for harmonic ideas, I pick a famous/commercial track I like a lot (in my genre), go find the chords for that song (most of that stuff is available online), and then create a new/different chord progression from that.
The main other thing I do, has to do with NOT buying new plugins. I have so many instruments and tools available, that it can be intimidating. So I have an app on my phone called 'ListPicker', that lets you make lists of things and randomly pick from those. I have lists for main synths, supporting instruments, drums, special FX, and composing tools (Reason Players in my case), and pick one from each list to start a new project. Lots of fun that way, and in most cases very inspirational.
The main other thing I do, has to do with NOT buying new plugins. I have so many instruments and tools available, that it can be intimidating. So I have an app on my phone called 'ListPicker', that lets you make lists of things and randomly pick from those. I have lists for main synths, supporting instruments, drums, special FX, and composing tools (Reason Players in my case), and pick one from each list to start a new project. Lots of fun that way, and in most cases very inspirational.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 15 Oct, 2004
Music is an emotional medium. If you're emotionally flat, your music will go nowhere. Maybe you should go and live a little, so you have something to compose about. Staying in front of the computer is the surest way to nothing.
- KVRAF
- 20940 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
This is natural. Don't make it mean anything. Go out for walks and bring paper or a dictaphone with you. Worst case scenario, you'll be healthy.mjolnir wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:12 am I think something broke inside my brain. The musical ideas just don't flow anymore. Whereas months ago (while I was homeless) I had so many musical ideas I couldn't keep up with and had no place to save them or make them real. Now I've got the gear and no ideas.
- KVRAF
- 20940 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Definitely new brushes: Biggest sale of the year spend spend SPENDjamcat wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:44 pm I wonder what makes a great painting: new brushes, or inspiration?
- addled muppet weed
- 111341 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
as a fan of jackson pollock, brushes aren't necessary!Uncle E wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:44 pmDefinitely new brushes: Biggest sale of the year spend spend SPENDjamcat wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:44 pm I wonder what makes a great painting: new brushes, or inspiration?
- addled muppet weed
- 111341 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
several hours a day, several days a week, for a few months, staring, at either rotting fruit, or a bored but naked, model.jamcat wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:44 pm I wonder what makes a great painting: new brushes, or inspiration?
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