Airwindows ToTape8: Free Mac/Windows/Linux/Pi CLAP/AU/VST3/VST2/LV2/Rack

[dysjoint]

Drive, flutter, tone, clipper, love it! (Not after a tape sim, just a colour box will do me) That samplerate/tilt relationship is waaay more pronounced than I expected, it's like an extra tone, or air, control. Big thanks to old mate for complaining about that or I would have totally missed it.

[EfreetiSultan]

No I meant that I literally didn't understand it. English is my third language and it just seems like rambling to me, sorry. So if you want try to explain it

Made sense to me. You do know that I hang out with professional commercial devs, right? I don't put on airs, I'm just firm about 'I'm doing my own thing in pursuit of different sounds, and know I am not as good a coder as you, but it's about trying to get sounds I don't get from the commercial sphere', and that goes over just fine with the pros.

Technically I am also a pro, in the sense of making my living this way, but many of my choices are about not being compelled by commercial reasons to divert from my path and just do stuff to make money or popularity. I accepted cutting my income in half or a third to go for the Patreon, because it would insulate me from risk aversion… it's all on purpose even when it seems unaccountable to people evaluating what I do on a 'commercial plugins' level.

Anyhow, I know with certainty there's probably double digits worth of commercial devs who shun KVR for exactly the reasons mentioned: there's gonna be some guy who will call you a fool, and who needs that headache? You do have to have a strong stomach and a lot of faith in your people out there in the marketplace to bother posting to KVR, it's more likely to lead to grief than anything useful.

I post here in addition to other places, because KVRians are nerds! Monomaniac socially incompetent yelling nerd-kings who WILL tell you every way you are wrong, and that you're cheating and fooling everybody.

I'm open source, and Patreon-supported, so cheating is ruled out: you can just read the code for all the good it will do you, and you can use the plugins or not, free. But the reason to still post to KVR and allow people to tell you you're a defective idiot dunce is, there's two ways criticism can help you as a developer.

One way is, maybe one in ten of those gripes are super relevant and you have to drop everything and fix what was wrong.

The other way is, sometimes you do the opposite out of spite and it's absolutely the correct move. You can't please everybody, but the degree to which you can delight some people is the degree to which you make the opposite sort of people mad. I had a guy gripe that he hated all tape plugins and hated real tape when he used it and now he hates ToTape8 and hates me sounds like that's the guy who should not like your tape plugin, as he's obviously unqualified!

And when you can't please everybody, suppose you make a plugin that's YYYxYYYY. And you get someone who is like 'stop that! You idiot! Plugins have to be X, you have to make it XXXXXXXX or you fail!' and you'd set out to make Y-based stuff and you only have a hint of X.

So rather than do XYXYXYXY and disappoint everybody and fail, sometimes that reminder is what you need to go 'thanks!' and make YYYYYYY, making the critic even madder. I'm doing that with my Meter plugin. I want people to pay attention to peaks, so I'm making them AMAZING and informative like never before, but I'm also removing any display of RMS volume. YYYYY? because I like it, and because it forces you to grapple with what most meters simply will not show you. That's the point. I expect the correct people to get mad, and they're allowed to, as I am scorning them (in a cordial way).

ToTape8 uses a technique to slightly tone down aliasing. It's like averaging except I tuned in the balance between current sample and previous sample using test tones and SPAN. This was not to stop aliasing, it was to get it to act more the way I wanted using the filtering technique I wanted. I didn't use a 128-wide FIR brickwall, or convert it into an MP3 and discard the bins above the cutoff frequency, because I didn't want to do those things. There will still be aliasing but it'll act differently, and it'll do a really nice job for me or someone oversampling at 2x or the guy who was using 192k (Neil Young, is that you?) and it will do that TYPE of ToTape8 sound at 44.1k with the behavior somewhat darkened because there isn't room to do it properly with Nyquist at 22050 hz. I'll have to do another because I'm being asked to make a darker ToTape already: sounds like some folks will prefer the voicing of the 44.1k version over what I want to use for me.

I got told to pay attention to the aliasing in ToTape7 because I was an unprofessional idiot who neither knew nor cared what I was doing, and so I paid attention and did things the way I'd rather do them, rather than force all users to use whatever lame internal oversampling I thought would appease the masses and be done with it, ditching the things that make my plugins sound different than the mainstream stuff which just incorporates whatever the latest buzzword is. It's been 'oversampling' for a while, before then it was 'Pro Tools' or something. At one point 'latency' was a big deal. Still is for me, because I want to track into a completed mix and work with it on the fly.

Some people like what I'm doing. Starting with me. I like what I did with ToTape8. It's trading off in the right ways, to my taste. I think the worst you can say is 'tilt' becomes less effective at 44.1k, but you know it's not really a proper EQ even at high sample rate, nor should it be: it's a Dubly mismatch. Makes a different sort of sound.

i replied to this. but the moderators removed it. why? i have no clue. it was not toxic or rude in the slightest. it was an honest reply. no idea why it was removed..

[jinxtigr]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

[EfreetiSultan]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

[whassup]

Some people like what I'm doing. Starting with me. I like what I did with ToTape8.

Yeah, me likes that. This one and quite a few others of your cool plugins. Working through your vast collection of awesome ideas.
And thanx for being YOU. Much appreciated.

[jinxtigr]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

You have a good day too! My guess is that they're aware of the tendency for devs to abandon KVR over that sort of thing, and they're protective of dev feelings. That's not wrong, I'm definitely sort of insane for letting people tee off on me that way. I just learned years ago that hearing good news is great but the really competitive business guy is first to hear the BAD news and that's how they dominate.

Just remember, to KVR mods the bad news is 'devs tend to shun this place because they get so much vitriol and static'. It cuts both ways. They can't all be crazy like chris from airwindows

[Cavey Arrgh]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

You have a good day too! My guess is that they're aware of the tendency for devs to abandon KVR over that sort of thing, and they're protective of dev feelings. That's not wrong, I'm definitely sort of insane for letting people tee off on me that way. I just learned years ago that hearing good news is great but the really competitive business guy is first to hear the BAD news and that's how they dominate.

Just remember, to KVR mods the bad news is 'devs tend to shun this place because they get so much vitriol and static'. It cuts both ways. They can't all be crazy like chris from airwindows

Crazy like a fox.

[EfreetiSultan]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

You have a good day too! My guess is that they're aware of the tendency for devs to abandon KVR over that sort of thing, and they're protective of dev feelings. That's not wrong, I'm definitely sort of insane for letting people tee off on me that way. I just learned years ago that hearing good news is great but the really competitive business guy is first to hear the BAD news and that's how they dominate.

Just remember, to KVR mods the bad news is 'devs tend to shun this place because they get so much vitriol and static'. It cuts both ways. They can't all be crazy like chris from airwindows

That's the thing though. I wasn't rude, toxic, mean or anything in my reply.
I think you're taking what I said and making it into something bigger than it needs to be.
I didn't bring vitriol, static, hurt your feelings, anything like that.
And even if I did I wouldn't be breaking the rules.

So they just simply removed it for no good reason.. Now let me ask you something Chris.
Do you ONLY want yes men or do you want an honest opinion every now and then. Honest question.

[jinxtigr]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

You have a good day too! My guess is that they're aware of the tendency for devs to abandon KVR over that sort of thing, and they're protective of dev feelings. That's not wrong, I'm definitely sort of insane for letting people tee off on me that way. I just learned years ago that hearing good news is great but the really competitive business guy is first to hear the BAD news and that's how they dominate.

Just remember, to KVR mods the bad news is 'devs tend to shun this place because they get so much vitriol and static'. It cuts both ways. They can't all be crazy like chris from airwindows

That's the thing though. I wasn't rude, toxic, mean or anything in my reply.
I think you're taking what I said and making it into something bigger than it needs to be.
I didn't bring vitriol, static, hurt your feelings, anything like that.
And even if I did I wouldn't be breaking the rules.

So they just simply removed it for no good reason.. Now let me ask you something Chris.
Do you ONLY want yes men or do you want an honest opinion every now and then. Honest question.

I don't know why you're asking me, dude. I didn't remove your message. Did you read what I already wrote? I've already said about one in ten of the 'honest opinions' are useful, and more often they highlight something I want to go even further with. This does not constitute making the 'honest opinion haver' happy, but nothing will, so no loss there

[EfreetiSultan]

I guess keep an eye out, and much like KVR posting can be kind of lively, KVR moderation can be kind of lively? It's not really my place to say 'hey go easy on him', I'm not a moderator and as far as I know I don't know any. Sorry about that.

It's bewildering. I see a few replies here were removed and the only explanation I can see is they removed mine by accident. Nothing in my reply to you were even remotely breaking rules.. Gah.. This really sucks..
I guess that's that then. They simply don't allow for this discussion. Have a good day

You have a good day too! My guess is that they're aware of the tendency for devs to abandon KVR over that sort of thing, and they're protective of dev feelings. That's not wrong, I'm definitely sort of insane for letting people tee off on me that way. I just learned years ago that hearing good news is great but the really competitive business guy is first to hear the BAD news and that's how they dominate.

Just remember, to KVR mods the bad news is 'devs tend to shun this place because they get so much vitriol and static'. It cuts both ways. They can't all be crazy like chris from airwindows

That's the thing though. I wasn't rude, toxic, mean or anything in my reply.
I think you're taking what I said and making it into something bigger than it needs to be.
I didn't bring vitriol, static, hurt your feelings, anything like that.
And even if I did I wouldn't be breaking the rules.

So they just simply removed it for no good reason.. Now let me ask you something Chris.
Do you ONLY want yes men or do you want an honest opinion every now and then. Honest question.

I don't know why you're asking me, dude. I didn't remove your message. Did you read what I already wrote? I've already said about one in ten of the 'honest opinions' are useful, and more often they highlight something I want to go even further with. This does not constitute making the 'honest opinion haver' happy, but nothing will, so no loss there

Hmm...I'm not sure what to say here, I know you're not the moderator. You're the one who replied to me. I - - you know what just nevernind. I'm not sure we are in the same frequency here. But let's just leave it at that. I wish you all the best.