Acustica intros Corn: The 80’s Chorus, Reborn.

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Does Acustica have a Butter product? I think they have Salt. Both preferable with Corn imho. However where is this corn grown? Mars?

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bmanic wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:17 am
markmann wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:45 am We disagree about the sound and usability of the plugin. However, your original statement ridiculing the pricing is fallacious.
No it's really not. The actual real price for most people is 120 euros once the intro offer is gone. That IS ridiculous for a single chorus plugin, no matter how you look at it.

During the current introductory period, Corn is available for €75, and with additional discounts applied, the average customer is paying between €40–50.

Regarding value, Corn isn’t designed to compete solely based on being “just another chorus.” It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.

For those who simply need a basic chorus, there are other options out there. But for those who want a deeply analog and fat sound, we believe Corn offers something special.

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Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm Regarding value, Corn isn’t designed to compete solely based on being “just another chorus.” It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
Do other developers not meticulously craft their plugins for users who prioritize sound? You guys release a new plugin almost weekly, that's a lot of meticulous crafting for a small software developer.
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm For those who simply need a basic chorus, there are other options out there.
Is the value here that it's not basic? Because this one looks pretty basic in relation to a lot of the chorus plugins available today. Are there hidden features that aren't visible on the marketing images?

Like all Acustica plugins, the UI is very pretty and "vintagey". Acustica UIs are definitely "meticulously crafted".

For the dedicated Acustica user, this one at least seems to fill a gap in your portfolio. So regardless of the merits of the plugin to the broader market, I guess the loyal Acustica user will find value in it.
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bmanic wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:17 am
markmann wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:45 am We disagree about the sound and usability of the plugin. However, your original statement ridiculing the pricing is fallacious.
No it's really not. The actual real price for most people is 120 euros once the intro offer is gone. That IS ridiculous for a single chorus plugin, no matter how you look at it.
bManic, with love, you will never get the time back that you've spent on arguing (and often being right) on Acoustica forum threads for a decade plus now. For your own sake, just don't anymore! There are better things to do in life! :hihi:

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billinder33 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:19 pm You guys release a new plugin almost weekly, that's a lot of meticulous crafting for a small software developer.
Releases don't mean development. A product, or several products can be developed for a long time.

Not long ago, artists released many songs together and decided to call it an "album", did that mean they did all the songs within the last week? nope!

This release involved work from several internal and external developers and meticulous sampling of a unit as well as post-sampling work to make it suitable for a plugin. It looks simple on the outside but it is not.

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Weaksauce arguing. Vote with your wallet.

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Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
Meticulously crafted with noises that the user can't turn off, for 120EU

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Scotty Ellis wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:50 pm
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
Meticulously crafted with noises that the user can't turn off, for 120EU
The noise is an authentic feature, just like in the original hardware we emulated; it’s part of the charm.

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Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:13 pm
Scotty Ellis wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:50 pm
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
Meticulously crafted with noises that the user can't turn off, for 120EU
The noise is an authentic feature, just like in the original hardware we emulated; it’s part of the charm.
Noises that the user can't turn off is not a feature. It's arrogance from the dev. Which comes as no surprise. At 120 EU, a customer has certainly paid for the right to disable the noises.

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Scotty Ellis wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:29 pm
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:13 pm
Scotty Ellis wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:50 pm
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
Meticulously crafted with noises that the user can't turn off, for 120EU
The noise is an authentic feature, just like in the original hardware we emulated; it’s part of the charm.
Noises that the user can't turn off is not a feature. It's arrogance from the dev. Which comes as no surprise. At 120 EU, a customer has certainly paid for the right to disable the noises.
Just to clarify, Corn is currently available at its special intro price, not the regular price of €119, until December 12, 2024.

As for the noise, it’s a deliberate design choice to preserve the authenticity of the original hardware; however, during the intro period, we’re always open to suggestions. In fact, in the past, we’ve modified or re-designed aspects of our products based on user requests.

This approach may not align with everyone’s preferences, and that’s okay. Ultimately, our goal is to create tools for those who value this level of authenticity, even if it’s not for everyone.

A free 30-day trial is available, so we encourage everyone to try it out and experience it themselves.

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Just have to chip in here that Roland themselves have option to disable noise on their own Juno chorus emus on their overpriced digital rehash synths. At least Acustica have one of these things in common with Roland. I really think you'll find that the vast majority of people using any kind of Juno chorus find the noise intensely irritating. Back in the day I couldn't use my Juno without a gate on the mixer insert, otherwise wouldn't use the chorus at all (even though it does sound good). To be forced to have it in a plugin is kinda... :nutter:

I applaud Acustica in releasing something at least a bit different from their usual, even though I can get me a Juno chorus noise-free for cheaper. :shrug:

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markmann wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:45 am . However, your original statement ridiculing the pricing is fallacious.
It isn't in the least "fallacious" - it's absurd to claim it was.

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Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm Regarding value, Corn isn’t designed to compete solely based on being “just another chorus.” It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
And yet the less expensive competition manages to fully succeed in regards to emulating the respective original while yours fails - not to mention said products do so bug-free.

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jens wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:11 am
Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm Regarding value, Corn isn’t designed to compete solely based on being “just another chorus.” It’s a meticulously crafted plugin aimed at users who prioritize sound.
And yet the less expensive competition manages to fully succeed in regards to emulating the respective original while yours fails - not to mention said products do so bug-free.
Currently, Corn has no known bugs or pending fixes, and we’re proud of its stability and performance.

While there are alternative options on the market, each product has its own strengths and design philosophy, which ultimately benefits users by providing diverse choices.

Corn’s emulation focuses on capturing the authentic character, sonic depth, and analog feel of the original hardware, including its dynamic saturation and unique stereo expansion capabilities.

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Acustica Community wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm
During the current introductory period, Corn is available for €75, and with additional discounts applied, the average customer is paying between €40–50.
The pushback you're getting on the price I think comes from the idea that maybe the Juno chorus emulation has somewhat become devalued in people's minds due to the emulations that were offered for free at one point (Arturia, Sonic Academy) are currently eternally free and pretty good (OSL, TAL), and a few that are offered at a more consumer friendly price (FAC Chorus is $10, OSL Multi Chorus is $29, AIR Jura Chorus is $29). The Juno chorus is also a relatively simple device. almost in the same category as those "one-knob" devices. Your defense is that your emulation is the best one out there in terms of audio quality. Fair. However, you're going to have a difficult time swaying the non-average customer to pay $80 right now just based on that.

Speaking of which - wondering what it takes to become an "average" customer. I've purchased Amethyst, Gold, Sand, & Taupe. I'm guessing that's not enough to make it into the "average" category. So Corn would be about $80 for me. I'm one of those people I mentioned above - I'm not paying $80 for a Juno chorus for the reasons above.

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