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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 22 Dec, 2024
very very excellent.
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- KVRAF
- 12090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I don't think FL can automaticity be said to have the best PR editor anymore, it depends what you want. Studio One Pro 7 has an excellent PR editor and with scripts (e.g. https://s1toolbox.com/harmonywizard) is a real composition tool and of course you have the option of the score editor and pattern editor integrated. Lives PR editor is now also very good with full MPE editing and the integrated midi tools offering a different way of generating midi automaticity with Euclidian stuff, scale generated notes and chords, strum etc.vertibration wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:21 amU serious? lmao.....Which piano roll is better?AdvancedFollower wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:29 pm Ghost notes from other patterns in the playlist is a big feature. It brings the archaic piano roll in FL one step closer to being competitive with other DAWs. I hope they also add note coloring (custom colors or based on velocity, pitch, pattern etc., not just MIDI channel) at some point.
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- KVRian
- 1195 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
FL still has the best piano roll.
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
They finally gave the option to change the Piano Roll behavior when we double click on a pattern in Playlist. It was really annoying to scroll to left every time I open the piano roll because I use smaller patterns, mostly 4 bars.
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- KVRist
- 151 posts since 26 Jan, 2024
FL still has a couple of things it needs before it can be my sole/main DAW.
Quickswipe comping - having to manually create your own comping area and cut and slice takes and move them by hand to a new track etc.. nightmare. Quickswiping comps like Reaper or Logic or Studio One or Bitwig etc.. so much better.
ARA support - huge timesaver for those of us that use Melodyne/Repitch/Vocalign.
Remove the baked-in 125 mixer channels and 500 tracks - removing these means removing the need to manually route everything, which means setting up a new project becomes way quicker and smoother.
Not sure why it forces those tracks and mixer channels on you. I don't want to see them.
I want an empty slate to be empty. Empty does not equal 125 mixer channels and 500 tracks already routed to the master, forcing me to route and reroute absolutely everything if I want to do anything.
Those three are my biggest hangups with FL.
Big fan of it in general and find it's the DAW I feel most creative in.
Quickswipe comping - having to manually create your own comping area and cut and slice takes and move them by hand to a new track etc.. nightmare. Quickswiping comps like Reaper or Logic or Studio One or Bitwig etc.. so much better.
ARA support - huge timesaver for those of us that use Melodyne/Repitch/Vocalign.
Remove the baked-in 125 mixer channels and 500 tracks - removing these means removing the need to manually route everything, which means setting up a new project becomes way quicker and smoother.
Not sure why it forces those tracks and mixer channels on you. I don't want to see them.
I want an empty slate to be empty. Empty does not equal 125 mixer channels and 500 tracks already routed to the master, forcing me to route and reroute absolutely everything if I want to do anything.
Those three are my biggest hangups with FL.
Big fan of it in general and find it's the DAW I feel most creative in.
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- KVRAF
- 9601 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
really wonder why the others still suck in comparison, it doesnt seem so special to programm? imagine Ableton having such a fluid and fast piano roll with its new midi features it would be killer.
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- KVRian
- 975 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
Is there a quick way to take notes from one pattern to another one to use with a different instrument? I have been copying them manually, creating a new pattern, adding a new instrument, then pasting; and yeah that's tedious while there is a workaround. I can't remember what I did before. I think you can drag from the Channel Rack? Just decided to ask here...
I like FL. It was what I thought- pretty light like Reaper. Bitwig, Ableton, and Luna crackle fast on my laptop. Might try Studio One but presume it will not be so light. I think it will be fast for me once I get back into the swing of things with FL if I decide to pick it up..
How do people feel about the FL instruments at this point...
I like FL. It was what I thought- pretty light like Reaper. Bitwig, Ableton, and Luna crackle fast on my laptop. Might try Studio One but presume it will not be so light. I think it will be fast for me once I get back into the swing of things with FL if I decide to pick it up..
How do people feel about the FL instruments at this point...
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- KVRist
- 151 posts since 26 Jan, 2024
Not sure if I'm reading you correctly, but if you're doing this in channel rack - you can just right click the channel button you want to copy, hit copy, then right click the channel button you want to paste to, and hit paste.twal wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:48 pm Is there a quick way to take notes from one pattern to another one to use with a different instrument? I have been copying them manually, creating a new pattern, adding a new instrument, then pasting; and yeah that's tedious while there is a workaround. I can't remember what I did before. I think you can drag from the Channel Rack? Just decided to ask here...
I like FL. It was what I thought- pretty light like Reaper. Bitwig, Ableton, and Luna crackle fast on my laptop. Might try Studio One but presume it will not be so light. I think it will be fast for me once I get back into the swing of things with FL if I decide to pick it up..
How do people feel about the FL instruments at this point...
Takes less than a second. Maybe there's a quicker way but this way is fast af.
I love FL's instruments but everyone's different, they've got a whole host of excellent synths that can do whatever you need/want, and their FX are awesome too.
I prefer third-party pianos and 'real' sounding drums, FL has some great stuff for electronic drums however.
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- KVRist
- 151 posts since 26 Jan, 2024
harddaysnight wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 pmNot sure if I'm reading you correctly, but if you're doing this in channel rack - you can just right click the channel button you want to copy, hit copy, then right click the channel button you want to paste to, and hit paste.twal wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:48 pm Is there a quick way to take notes from one pattern to another one to use with a different instrument? I have been copying them manually, creating a new pattern, adding a new instrument, then pasting; and yeah that's tedious while there is a workaround. I can't remember what I did before. I think you can drag from the Channel Rack? Just decided to ask here...
I like FL. It was what I thought- pretty light like Reaper. Bitwig, Ableton, and Luna crackle fast on my laptop. Might try Studio One but presume it will not be so light. I think it will be fast for me once I get back into the swing of things with FL if I decide to pick it up..
How do people feel about the FL instruments at this point...
Takes less than a second. Maybe there's a quicker way but this way is fast af.
I love FL's instruments but everyone's different, they've got a whole host of excellent synths that can do whatever you need/want, and their FX are awesome too.
I prefer third-party pianos and 'real' sounding drums, FL has some great stuff for electronic drums however and I don't think FL Keys is bad at all. There's just way better pianos out there if you want an authentic sound.
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- KVRian
- 701 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
Hmm, my experience with FL instruments has been pretty negative tbh.harddaysnight wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 pm
I love FL's instruments but everyone's different, they've got a whole host of excellent synths that can do whatever you need/want, and their FX are awesome too.
I prefer third-party pianos and 'real' sounding drums, FL has some great stuff for electronic drums however.
Their sample player, for example (Sampler)... how the fk can we use that in any sensible way.
I was using it for a while, for my drums, and seriously, wtf. Those ADSR envelopes are a joke.
You can't even see milliseconds on that thing, never mind tempo synced envelopes.
I ended up just inserting 10 Slicex and putting my drums in there...
Then I realised that if I wanted to audition a different sample in Slicex, adding it would remove the marker that is required to play the sample, and Slicex would just produce silence, until I manually added a marker from that tiny little icon...
So if I want to audition a bank of 200 kicks, I need to middle click the sample (to replace in Slicex), and then carefully position the mouse over this tiny icon, to place a marker at the start...
Then the same for sound 2, 3 etc.
Really?
I was always hoping that one day they would remove the marker requirement in Slicex, or failing that, copy the Slicex envelope MSEGs into Sampler, to update the Pitch / Vol env.
But neither has happened, and I have since bought Avenger and Backbone just so I can have proper drum envelopes in FL
Oh, and another thing... recently reinstalled Windows, and Kontakt isn't working(!!), so I check FLs instrument for a female choir sound that I needed, and to my surprise... nothing?
Nothing in Direct Wave or anywhere else (few nice imitations in Sakura tho)
And so... I recently had to buy Spitfire's Epic Choir because of that.
So yeah. A totally different experience for me.
- KVRAF
- 11373 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Eh? You can audition those 200 kicks in the browser, moving between them with simple up/down arrow. Then drag and drop them where you need em.
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- KVRian
- 632 posts since 1 Jul, 2007 from over there
Its still called Fruity Loops Studio and has a browser that can't sync audio files to its sequencer tempo unless the files have meta data embedded in them. Seems weird to me. Why not add time stretching to the browser?
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- KVRian
- 975 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
Thanks for this.harddaysnight wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 pmNot sure if I'm reading you correctly, but if you're doing this in channel rack - you can just right click the channel button you want to copy, hit copy, then right click the channel button you want to paste to, and hit paste.twal wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:48 pm Is there a quick way to take notes from one pattern to another one to use with a different instrument? I have been copying them manually, creating a new pattern, adding a new instrument, then pasting; and yeah that's tedious while there is a workaround. I can't remember what I did before. I think you can drag from the Channel Rack? Just decided to ask here...
I like FL. It was what I thought- pretty light like Reaper. Bitwig, Ableton, and Luna crackle fast on my laptop. Might try Studio One but presume it will not be so light. I think it will be fast for me once I get back into the swing of things with FL if I decide to pick it up..
How do people feel about the FL instruments at this point...
Takes less than a second. Maybe there's a quicker way but this way is fast af.
I love FL's instruments but everyone's different, they've got a whole host of excellent synths that can do whatever you need/want, and their FX are awesome too.
I prefer third-party pianos and 'real' sounding drums, FL has some great stuff for electronic drums however.
Yeah I like the synths, with the addition of Flex, and that other new one I forgot the name, that's pretty choice. On sale now too. The FL is experience I think where the value is along with the capabilities of it more so though; but definitely nice..
Don't really have much interest besides FL in any others daws rn except Studio One a little...
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- KVRian
- 701 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
Won't that play them through the preview track, instead of instrument track?bmanic wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:45 am Eh? You can audition those 200 kicks in the browser, moving between them with simple up/down arrow. Then drag and drop them where you need em.
And I like to demo the sound as the track is playing, so not sure if FL is up to that task yet?
I don't really look at the new browser functions too much.
But I don't think it's quite the same, tbh
Actually, using Sampler is easiest. Just middle click on sample, and it replaces the kick or whatever.
Just can't use those envelopes
- KVRAF
- 14141 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Why in the world would you audition 200 kicks?