Loadbox/Attenuator - what do you use? Boss had new stuff at NAMM
- KVRAF
- 20915 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Yes, it's quite good. 22 speakers, 2 separate, pannable mics + room mics, and lots of effects. There used to be bluetooth connection issues but the latest firmware solved that for most people. I would only warn that it might get released as a plugin some day.
- KVRAF
- 5264 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I use a Bugera PS1 Power Soak. It's garbage in my opinion. Doesn't get the level under control enough and (I know it's passive) gets crazy hot. Got it for $50 though so ......
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- KVRAF
- 12498 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The IR version is pretty solid for jamming with headphones at home when you don't want to turn a computer on. In a studio/recording situation, I typically go line-out of the Suhr into the DAW, then use TH-U's Super Cabinet as my IR loader. Super Cabinet with the fluid IR's just adds a little bit of liveliness to any IR's via their dynamic speaker model. It's under-appreciated as a third-party IR loader.Uncle E wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:19 pm Yes, I wouldn't recommend the IR version. Use it with an Ox Stomp instead.
I'm not a fan of UA's impulse responses, at least, not on any of their amp plugins. I'm pretty convinced they're hipassing up to around 100hz and/or doing other EQ'ing. It'll drop into most mixes pretty well, but playing solo, you miss the low-end. And try it on a Rhodes and low notes disappear. Switch to something like York IR's and you realize how much bass was shaved off.
But some people absolutely love the UA cabs, so it's a taste thing. Just not for me. Even their amp sim plugins benefit by bypassing the cab and loading up good third-party IR's.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7115 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
20 years ago I played around a lot with Izotope Trash v1 and determined to get this going ITB.
You had a lot of distortion models and you could put them in series and stuff.
But nothing of that mattered much as what they called Box Models which is cabinets then.
- if the were 50 box models or something
- as you found 4-5 maybe that spoke to you
Seems total character of the guitar sound is shaped in cabinet and why it is so personal.
More than 10 years ago I modified some amps at a amp gury Tommy Folkesson and we came to talk about cab sims and he had that Two Notes Torpedo stuff, and said he did not like it.
If you do guitar and some pedals possibly, or a line out before power amp, signal should be fairly similar.
- and Ox Stomp should probably work well with that
- this assuming cab sims are done with this in mind, and not just taken from the big Ox which has reactive load before
Seems to me Pete Thorn in the video is doing the right way and he got a result we could not hear were different the miked cabinet.
- as I recall, a full range linear amp feeding the cabinet and a sweep
- this should take care of the cabinet alone
And if you then feed a IR with a reactive load signal that is rather scooped it should be very close to the real thing.
- this is how I understood it
But looking at his graph, I enclose below, where resistor loads does not give that scooped character and feed that into a IR made the right way as Pete Thorn did
- then it would sound really poor
Blue curve below is reactive load, the others various resistive loads.
- feed all those to the same cab IR will sound very different
You had a lot of distortion models and you could put them in series and stuff.
But nothing of that mattered much as what they called Box Models which is cabinets then.
- if the were 50 box models or something
- as you found 4-5 maybe that spoke to you
Seems total character of the guitar sound is shaped in cabinet and why it is so personal.
More than 10 years ago I modified some amps at a amp gury Tommy Folkesson and we came to talk about cab sims and he had that Two Notes Torpedo stuff, and said he did not like it.
If you do guitar and some pedals possibly, or a line out before power amp, signal should be fairly similar.
- and Ox Stomp should probably work well with that
- this assuming cab sims are done with this in mind, and not just taken from the big Ox which has reactive load before
Seems to me Pete Thorn in the video is doing the right way and he got a result we could not hear were different the miked cabinet.
- as I recall, a full range linear amp feeding the cabinet and a sweep
- this should take care of the cabinet alone
And if you then feed a IR with a reactive load signal that is rather scooped it should be very close to the real thing.
- this is how I understood it
But looking at his graph, I enclose below, where resistor loads does not give that scooped character and feed that into a IR made the right way as Pete Thorn did
- then it would sound really poor
Blue curve below is reactive load, the others various resistive loads.
- feed all those to the same cab IR will sound very different
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