Frequency Block Synthesis
- KVRAF
- 10156 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Sounds like something you could bang together with Csound
- Beware the Quoth
- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
That's doublespeak. There's no substantive or practical difference between 'frequencies as distinct compositional units' and 'sources of timbre'Innovative synthesis wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 11:53 am The key innovation lies in how it treats blocks of frequencies as distinct compositional units, not just sources of timbre.
Structural use of partial groups: Additive synthesis groups organizes partials into defined, controllable frequency groups, which can each have their own independent evolution over time — in amplitude, phase, spatialization, or modulation depth...Structural use of frequency bands: FBS organizes partials into defined, controllable frequency blocks, which can each have their own independent evolution over time — in amplitude, phase, spatialization, or modulation depth. This gives it a semi-modular, spectral architecture closer to additive-resynthesis meets vector synthesis.
No, its repackaging an existing way of thinking about synthesis. Perhaps you didnt use to consider frequency content in your sound design, but that doesnt make it something that's new to anyone else.IFBS proposes a new way of thinking about synthesis — one that is inherently spectral and modular at the block level.
The only thing that's different here is your specific samples.
Well, if you accept that 'new sound organisational framework' means specifically tailored samples running on an existing synth engine.So it's less about a new sound source and more about a new sound organization framework.
But a 'new sound organisational framework' is definitely not a new method of synthesis or a new instrument any more than a new bus timetable is a new public transport system.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
If an artist mixes their own colours according to their 'new palette organisation framework' they have not created a new method of painting.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 74 posts since 18 May, 2025
I understand again the skepticism, but the analogy oversimplifies what's happening in Frequency Block Synthesis. Mixing your own colours might not be a new method of painting, but if you reorganize the entire process of how colours are stored, accessed, and dynamically combined—in a way that opens up new expressive capabilities and fundamentally alters the workflow—you’re not just using a new palette; you’re inventing a new medium.
FBS isn't just a new patchbook or a different UI skin for existing synthesis—it proposes a structural shift in how frequency content is segmented, mapped, and manipulated. Traditional synthesis often starts from oscillators or samples that are modified with filters and modulators. FBS flips that paradigm by treating frequency "blocks" as the primary compositional units, with their own internal behaviours and morphing capacities.
So, to stretch your metaphor: this isn’t just a painter choosing their own pigments—it’s more like inventing a new kind of paint that changes colour and texture based on where and how it's applied, with tools that didn't exist before.
FBS isn't just a new patchbook or a different UI skin for existing synthesis—it proposes a structural shift in how frequency content is segmented, mapped, and manipulated. Traditional synthesis often starts from oscillators or samples that are modified with filters and modulators. FBS flips that paradigm by treating frequency "blocks" as the primary compositional units, with their own internal behaviours and morphing capacities.
So, to stretch your metaphor: this isn’t just a painter choosing their own pigments—it’s more like inventing a new kind of paint that changes colour and texture based on where and how it's applied, with tools that didn't exist before.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
if that were the case you wouldn't be able to implement it with the paints and tools that are already being used.Innovative synthesis wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 2:21 pm So, to stretch your metaphor: this isn’t just a painter choosing their own pigments—it’s more like inventing a new kind of paint that changes colour and texture based on where and how it's applied, with tools that didn't exist before.
and yet...
" This recent 128 synth voices pack as a "synth-in-a-pack" was actually made on Yamaha Motif XF ... but by-the-way this synthesis method can work on any other platform having similar waveform player architecture. "
So I'll ask again; If someone else comes along with their own sample set, sorry, 'modular frequency-domain instrument-building kit', where they say 'the sample content is organized by spectral logic, not by traditional patch layering' would that be your 'new method', or theirs?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."