5 day Poll: Magix Music Studio 2005 Idiocy

[cerise]

I think the purpose of these products is to make you
pay a little money each year and make you think it's
cheap,but you pay for every new version because of the
confusion between an update or an upgrade.
If you can't hold you desires,you always want have what
they writte in the term "plus" on the software box,the new features that appears every years and makes you feel you are no more in the race
Anyway there is a path between audio studio and midi
studio because you can edit directly in audio studio
the audio files that stand in midi studio

[jens]

Anyway there is a path between audio studio and midi
studio because you can edit directly in audio studio
the audio files that stand in midi studio

Could you explain what you mean?

[useruseruser]

Anyway there is a path between audio studio and midi
studio because you can edit directly in audio studio
the audio files that stand in midi studio

Could you explain what you mean?

Would you read right the post, so you probably could understand it and not ask in that *moronic* manner...

ps: I'm joking, of course. You know, why ...

[Forever Sun]

Here is the secret to Magix Studio Deluxe : use only the Samplitude side of it, ie: the Audio Studio.

Use it for its editing power and CD mastering and burning features only .Granted, it's 16 bit and all dithering has to be done in another application.
However, for the silly price Magix charges you get a huge chunk of Samplitude. If you have all FX plug-ins you need then you are sorted (Audio Studio has very limited FX ,that's where the price cut comes I suppose).

The navigation here is sublime ( for the way I work).
The object editing, ditto.
CD burning as easy as can be with great quality.
I found this more reliable than Nero.

It never gave me any problems (touch wood).

The next step up from this is Samplitude Classic ( or Master, can't remeber) for the same price as Wavelab.

So if you buy it for the reasons I've outlined, you will never have to update it as everything is there now ( providing you have all the necessary plugins).

And yes, I have mastered commercial CDs in Audio Studio.

Easy.

[useruseruser]

Anyway there is a path between audio studio and midi
studio because you can edit directly in audio studio
the audio files that stand in midi studio

Could you explain what you mean?

Jensi,
it is actually very easy to understand:

As in Logic, you can assign your favourit Audio Editor as a destination for extended audio editing.

So if you click twice on a selected audio track or uses the defined keystrokes, so the external audio editor appears and all the (destructive) editing of the tarck will remain, if you returm to the sequencer...

I think this was meaned...

btw: This can be done with *every* audio editor of your manual choice/assignment, so this is not necessairly a MidiStudio feature. The other hosts provide such simple connectivity too.

[jens]

got it - haven't even thought about this option

- thanks


b.t.w.: another way to use both appz together would be to (midi-)sync them. You could e.g. use the midi-studio only for midi/vsti and the audio-studio for all your audio-material

[useruseruser]

Here is the secret to Magix Studio Deluxe : use only the Samplitude side of it, ie: the Audio Studio.

Use it for its editing power and CD mastering and burning features only .Granted, it's 16 bit and all dithering has to be done in another application.
However, for the silly price Magix charges you get a huge chunk of Samplitude. If you have all FX plug-ins you need then you are sorted (Audio Studio has very limited FX ,that's where the price cut comes I suppose).

The navigation here is sublime ( for the way I work).
The object editing, ditto.
CD burning as easy as can be with great quality.
I found this more reliable than Nero.

It never gave me any problems (touch wood).

The next step up from this is Samplitude Classic ( or Master, can't remeber) for the same price as Wavelab.

So if you buy it for the reasons I've outlined, you will never have to update it as everything is there now ( providing you have all the necessary plugins).

And yes, I have mastered commercial CDs in Audio Studio.

Easy.

The AudioStudio part isn't that bad. But this application was not very stable in the past 5 versions...

And I would not underscribe, that 16 bit is really "professional". OK, you actually can master and burn CD's, but I think each today's average text editor can do this (sorry for the sarcasm). But there is in fact an exorbitant number of programs able to master CD in the meantime. Some of them are even completely free.

ps: The relatively good value of the AudioStudio is logical, because Magix actually bought the rights on Samplitude. So we at least could expect, that this downstripped version works somehow equal and useful ...

[fake]

jackle&hyde

Can you explain what bugs you were experiencing?
Old? and new? I've neve had problems with midi sync.

It could be that it was caused by using a crap sound card, Awe, Soundblaster etc! Ok for games but not realy recommended for doing music. Isnt the Awe an isa card as well! This makes me wonder how modern the computer running it is.
Jens,
When you open midi studio and want to work on an audio file there is a button at the top which lets you open the audio studio from within the midi studio.
So whats wrong with doing midi loops and bouncing down Or is that too hard.

There seems to be a few people here that are quite prepared to pay a lot for other software and then want to pay little for their main sequencer. Odd.

Horses for courses as they say.

fake

[useruseruser]

got it - haven't even thought about this option

- thanks


b.t.w.: another way to use both appz together would be to (midi-)sync them. You could e.g. use the midi-studio only for midi/vsti and the audio-studio for all your audio-material

Yes!

Or even enable a kinda MIDI tracking system inside the multitrack audio system of the AudioStudio.

I waited since the first versions for such a kind of usefull integration...

Oh my. What could it even be, if there were creative ppl with *visions* working at this package

ps: I want really to know, how long they want to do the old PC version of Logic in the package. I assume it will not developed any further (by the ppl who can do this)...

The only logical consquence would be to integrate a MIDI sequencing system into Samplitude. This shouldn't be so much a mess, but an real innovation...

[jens]

Just to clarify: the syncing of both sequencers is already possible

edit: and yes, midi within the audio-studio would be awesome

[useruseruser]

jackle&hyde

Can you explain what bugs you were experiencing?
Old? and new? I've neve had problems with midi sync.

It could be that it was caused by using a crap sound card, Awe, Soundblaster etc! Ok for games but not realy recommended for doing music. Isnt the Awe an isa card as well! This makes me wonder how modern the computer running it is.
Jens,
When you open midi studio and want to work on an audio file there is a button at the top which lets you open the audio studio from within the midi studio.
So whats wrong with doing midi loops and bouncing down Or is that too hard.

There seems to be a few people here that are quite prepared to pay a lot for other software and then want to pay little for their main sequencer. Odd.

Horses for courses as they say.

fake

Sorry fake!

But you are obviously a relatively new user to this software.

I spoke about the years I use this package from the very first days - probably about 10 years now -(updating it each year)...

And an AWE was at this time a top level soundcard which costed many hundereds on dollars! Later the Live! and so on. We were always on top of time with our multimedia courses...

The Logic clone's audio-midi synchronisation never worked right with those soundcards. And yes, the Audio Studio crashed all the time on simplest things.

As you know, I didn't use the very last versions of this package anymore, because the point of acceptance was overridden once. So maybe the last versions were acceptable in stability...

As already sayed, we used this package merely for educational purposes and never at professional level! But even therefore this software was not satisfying...

So read my posts right!

[useruseruser]

Just to clarify: the syncing of both sequencers is already possible

edit: and yes, midi within the audio-studio would be awesome

Did you ever use it? It was a terrible solution. Nearly useless !!!

[jens]

I agree - mainly because looping doesn't work

[_niko_]

just for the record: the latest version of audio studio can import, play/edit and export 24 bit files and also supports samplerates up to 96k (that one is weird, since in the export dialog srate options only go up to 48k but if you manually type in 96000 you can export at that samplerate without problems). So the 16-bit/48k limit is only for recording material, which makes it imho very good value for 39.99 Euro (price of the e-version).

Niko

[Forever Sun]

... and yes, midi within the audio-studio would be awesome

Available now : Samplitude Pro 8.