Proxima or Anthem?

[zerocrossing]

Remember these are not 30-40$ synths, the choice is not trivial.

To you.

Yes, for me it's not trivial, that's why I appreciate your opinion and all those who replied.

As much as I'd like to have Proxima, I feel that it will not add value to my existing synth portfolio in terms of different sound character or color - especially if one day I get Omnisphere. - Now if the analog modelling would be at the next level, with unheard detail and accuracy never seen before, that would be a different perspective.

Sounds to me like you don’t have much experience with analog synthesizers.

[Lbdunequest]

Remember these are not 30-40$ synths, the choice is not trivial.

To you.

Yes, for me it's not trivial, that's why I appreciate your opinion and all those who replied.

As much as I'd like to have Proxima, I feel that it will not add value to my existing synth portfolio in terms of different sound character or color - especially if one day I get Omnisphere. - Now if the analog modelling would be at the next level, with unheard detail and accuracy never seen before, that would be a different perspective.

Sounds to me like you don’t have much experience with analog synthesizers.

Exactly my thoughts.

I can make Fabfliter Twin 3 or Xfer Serum 1/2 sound as my analog Uno Synth Pro or Moog One (dont have moog but i had time with it).

I cannot imagine how it can be more analogier when digital synths can sound like analog synths.

[mambo888]

Yes we were poor and when I grew up I couldn’t afford analog synthesizers. My first synth was a Roland D10 and ever since my life is on a downhill. But we are talking about software and Proxima is not analog.

Personally, I don’t feel that an oscillator should be limited to saw wave or square or triangle these days. Also the standard should be 2 filters and various filter types. I care about how good the filter sounds that is important to me, I don’t believe in hardware synths anymore that is not up to a Yamaha Modx or Montage, imho all hardware synths should be multi-timbral.

[Lbdunequest]

Yes we were poor and when I grew up I couldn’t afford analog synthesizers. My first synth was a Roland D10 and ever since my life is on a downhill. But we are talking about software and Proxima is not analog.

Personally, I don’t feel that an oscillator should be limited to saw wave or square or triangle these days. Also the standard should be 2 filters and various filter types. I care about how good the filter sounds that is important to me, I don’t believe in hardware synths anymore that is not up to a Yamaha Modx or Montage, imho all hardware synths should be multi-timbral.

I have an analog synth and proxima quality sounds to me like analog synth.

You just dont like the synth, thats fair. But its not fair to say it doesnt sound analog if you dont have credibility to say that.

Mind you, i dont listen on inexpensive speaker monitors, i have a custom built studio with calibrated speaker system. And Proxima sounds analog.

[mambo888]

Exactly my thoughts.

I can make Fabfliter Twin 3 or Xfer Serum 1/2 sound as my analog Uno Synth Pro or Moog One (dont have moog but i had time with it).

I cannot imagine how it can be more analogier when digital synths can sound like analog synths.

Depending on who you listen to software is already there and sounds as good as analog (e.g. Repro, Diva, Multi/poly) whereas other people still hear the difference and look down on digital synths or complain about aliasing and the oversampling is not enough on filter drive.

That’s why I asked if Proxima is the next level e.g. nobody can say after this that an analog synth is better or we are still not there yet? Also what flavour can it give that other synths cannot?

Twin 3 and Serum 1/2 are very good synths and I increasingly feel that it is hard to convince myself to buy a new one.

Anyway the big question for me now is if I save the 150 USD towards an Ominsphere 3 for Christmas

[mambo888]

I have an analog synth and proxima quality sounds to me like analog synth.

You just dont like the synth, thats fair. But its not fair to say it doesnt sound analog if you dont have credibility to say that.

Mind you, i dont listen on inexpensive speaker monitors, i have a custom built studio with calibrated speaker system. And Proxima sounds analog.

I never said Proxima does not sound analog, please quote me when I said that. I asked if the quality of analog modelling is best / better than other already highly regarded software synths or basically indistinguishable from an analog synth?

According to your opinion what does Proxima give that for example Twin 3, Diva, Repro does not? Is there any special character that can justify it? I’d like to know other people’s opinion, I hope it’s not a problem.

[Ah_Dziz]

I'd imagine it sounds very similar to the SC synth they are modeling. They have a great reputation for their analog models after all. As I'm not even remotely interested in having another model of random analog gear from the 80s I will pass. My issue with all the "accurate recreations" of old gear is that they are recreating gear that wasn't super flexible to begin with. I'd rather have a few synths that can do the majority of subtractive sounds, with or without modeling of analog nonlinearities, than 85 different implementations of Curtis chips in different skins with photorealistic GUIs. Many folks enjoy that sort of thing though and synapse is good at it.

[zerocrossing]

Yes we were poor and when I grew up I couldn’t afford analog synthesizers. My first synth was a Roland D10 and ever since my life is on a downhill. But we are talking about software and Proxima is not analog.

Same, though I had three other friends in a similar situation and we scraped together enough to go in on a Juno 106 together. Sort of a time share. Later I was able to work in a music shop that stocked a lot of the classics, and a job where my employer and partners owned a lot amazing gear. It was many years before I was able to get some great analog equipment.

Personally, I don’t feel that an oscillator should be limited to saw wave or square or triangle these days. Also the standard should be 2 filters and various filter types. I care about how good the filter sounds that is important to me, I don’t believe in hardware synths anymore that is not up to a Yamaha Modx or Montage, imho all hardware synths should be multi-timbral.

That’s an awful lot of words to say that you don’t appreciate analog synthesis, which is fine, but it’s confusing that you’re looking at analog emulations. Actually, quite good ones that hold up to the real deal, even if they’re not exact. Sounds like you want Omnisphere. Don’t buy either of these and instead, save up for it.

[Uncle E]

Xfer Serum 1/2 sound as <snip> Moog One

Sorry, no. I can send you some Moog One samples that you can load into Serum 2, you'll immediately hear the difference and that still won't be as good as the real thing.

Serum 2 is awesome, just not for these things.

[sacer]

Xfer Serum 1/2 sound as <snip> Moog One

Sorry, no. I can send you some Moog One samples that you can load into Serum 2, you'll immediately hear the difference and that still won't be as good as the real thing.

Serum 2 is awesome, just not for these things.

we need a moog one VA recreation

[mambo888]

That’s an awful lot of words to say that you don’t appreciate analog synthesis, which is fine, but it’s confusing that you’re looking at analog emulations. Actually, quite good ones that hold up to the real deal, even if they’re not exact. Sounds like you want Omnisphere. Don’t buy either of these and instead, save up for it.

I don't know why are you projecting your opinion on me, but if that's what makes you happy. I have the Arturia collection, I have a couple of Cherry Audio, GForce synths, I have Diva, Repro, Saurus, Multipoly, all have a couple of oscillators leading to a filter and you are questioning my dedication to analog synthesis, why? Because I asked what would be the justification to buy the Proxima or what are its specialities that would make it stand out compared with other synths? I'd like to know what other people think about it and somehow it is a problem?

[mambo888]

we need a moog one VA recreation

Absolutely, now that one I would buy instantly

[Uncle E]

Because I asked what would be the justification to buy the Proxima or what are its specialities that would make it stand out compared with other synths? I'd like to know what other people think about it and somehow it is a problem?

It has the particular sound of a Prophet-600. If you rebut this by saying you have other great analog modelers, you're missing the point.

[seafire]

I don't have experience with Proxima, but about Anthem prices: you can get Anthem today for $10 as part of the Mix Tape Pro bundle for $99 along with 9 other UAD plugins. Use search if that is interesting for you.

Plus, the other plugins can be Polymax, Opal, and Moog Minimoog. I love Proxima but for someone who can only get one synth, that bundle is clearly the way to go.

Is that thru N.I? I just saw an advert on insta for cheap UAD stuff, and a while back N.I. had uhe stuff cheap.

Seems odd to me, a software company selling another company's stuff at a discount... no?

[vurt]

I don't have experience with Proxima, but about Anthem prices: you can get Anthem today for $10 as part of the Mix Tape Pro bundle for $99 along with 9 other UAD plugins. Use search if that is interesting for you.

Plus, the other plugins can be Polymax, Opal, and Moog Minimoog. I love Proxima but for someone who can only get one synth, that bundle is clearly the way to go.

Is that thru N.I? I just saw an advert on insta for cheap UAD stuff, and a while back N.I. had uhe stuff cheap.

Seems odd to me, a software company selling another company's stuff at a discount... no?

bigger advertising budget, means more sales.
usually also in conjunction with the controllers having templates for said synths/fx.