Ultra modern, all in one...everything. Hardware! No more problems.

[morphex]

Well remembered . I thought I must have got Jizz drive from somewhere. I'm old, but not that demented...yet.

Lol, you guys crack me up! It sounds like something you might read about in the Epstein Files. As for older, all-in-one recorders, I also had a few of them back in the day. The menu diving used to be a real point of contention for me. It seemed unnecessarily complicated, with sub-menu after sub-menu.

All of that button pushing, made it difficult to maintain momentum when the creativity was flowing. Honestly, I don’t miss dealing with floppy disks, SCSI drives and Zip drives or tape. I still have nightmares about all of the cabling and connections, especially when it came time to troubleshoot, yikes.

I still have most of that stuff because of the nostalgia that I have. But looking at it now, it all seems so clunky and time-draining. Also, my tastes have changed through the years, right along with the technology.

My focus on synthesis jumped over to VST’s, because of the expanded depth of sounds that computers can generate. And at a more affordable price than a lot of hardware options. Now that I’ve been spoiled with modern tech, I’ll never go back to the old ways of doing things, unless it’s for effect, or just for a nostalgic experience.

[Uncle E]

StudioLive consoles have onboard recording and iPad integration. Don't know if the iPad can be used for viewing or editing audio, though.

[Jim Roseberry]

If you're looking for an all-in-one solution, the latest generation MPCs might fit the bill.

• 16-track audio recording
  32 internal instrument plugins
  Full mixing with inserts/sends
  Samples and Keygroups

Keygroups now have a fairly deep synth engine

• 8 Sample Layers (including random and round-robin)
  Disk Streaming for Samples
  Multiple Filter options (including models of classics)
  Mod-Matrix

[zerocrossing]

So I am a little older over here but I won't say how much!

But I do remember, from about 1996 or so, these all in one studios for home audio production were being developed. Like the Roland VS -880, Yamaha AW16.

What about an ultra modern version of something like this?? All the power of a modern computer without the complexity. Maybe something as physically big as a 24 track mixer, but with all the latest stuff built in, no computer necessary. That would be awesome! But Noooooo...

Wait!!! The display will never be big enough...so just forget it.

Oh, Auntie Grizzellda, won't you ever learn?

I'd guess that complexity isn't really your issue, but perhaps it's dealing with less than intuitive user interfaces. I've used all sorts of products over the years, and the all-in-one hardware recorders were always the worst, because as you mentioned, the display. So you're always working with a small display. The key, IMO, is to find an intuitive to use DAW and learn it, but not all of it. A lot of people feel like they have to learn everything their DAW does, and that's just nonsense. So, say you just want to record basic rock music with hardware instruments. Watch a tutorial on YouTube that's titled, "recording a rock track with [the name of your DAW]." If you've ever used a traditional studio, you'll actually find that almost every thing about doing it in a DAW is analogous to using ol' school hardware, except you don't have to use a razor blade to cut tape.

What DAW? Well, that depends on what you want to do. I've tried a bunch of them and Bitwig works best for me, but I could have easily gone to Ableton, but it didn't have a feature that I needed. (it does now) Back in the day, I used Digital Performer, but I found that I didn't really like it's work flow, and I started getting into using a DAW as a performance tool, and Live made the most sense, and from there it was a quick jump to Bitwig, which is similar in many ways. I know a lot of people like Logic, but that's an Apple only product. I've heard that Presonus Studio One is very intuitive and simple to use as well. Good luck.

[pekbro]

I read that make believe studios (metric halo) is making a software MPC. Interestingly.

[Uncle E]

Do you have a link for that?

[pekbro]

Do you have a link for that?

They say it was announced at NAMM in this thread at GS:

https://gearspace.com/board/new-product ... -room.html

[Uncle E]

Thanks!

[Jim Roseberry]

I read that make believe studios (metric halo) is making a software MPC. Interestingly.

It's a plugin that emulates the *sound* of an MPC.
It's not a virtual MPC instrument.

[pekbro]

I read that make believe studios (metric halo) is making a software MPC. Interestingly.

It's a plugin that emulates the *sound* of an MPC.
It's not a virtual MPC instrument.

Ahh bummer, I didn’t pay a lot of attention I guess. Sry.

[Grizzellda]

So I am a little older over here but I won't say how much!

But I do remember, from about 1996 or so, these all in one studios for home audio production were being developed. Like the Roland VS -880, Yamaha AW16.

What about an ultra modern version of something like this?? All the power of a modern computer without the complexity. Maybe something as physically big as a 24 track mixer, but with all the latest stuff built in, no computer necessary. That would be awesome! But Noooooo...

Wait!!! The display will never be big enough...so just forget it.

Oh, Auntie Grizzellda, won't you ever learn?

I'd guess that complexity isn't really your issue, but perhaps it's dealing with less than intuitive user interfaces. I've used all sorts of products over the years, and the all-in-one hardware recorders were always the worst, because as you mentioned, the display. So you're always working with a small display. The key, IMO, is to find an intuitive to use DAW and learn it, but not all of it. A lot of people feel like they have to learn everything their DAW does, and that's just nonsense. So, say you just want to record basic rock music with hardware instruments. Watch a tutorial on YouTube that's titled, "recording a rock track with [the name of your DAW]." If you've ever used a traditional studio, you'll actually find that almost every thing about doing it in a DAW is analogous to using ol' school hardware, except you don't have to use a razor blade to cut tape.

What DAW? Well, that depends on what you want to do. I've tried a bunch of them and Bitwig works best for me, but I could have easily gone to Ableton, but it didn't have a feature that I needed. (it does now) Back in the day, I used Digital Performer, but I found that I didn't really like it's work flow, and I started getting into using a DAW as a performance tool, and Live made the most sense, and from there it was a quick jump to Bitwig, which is similar in many ways. I know a lot of people like Logic, but that's an Apple only product. I've heard that Presonus Studio One is very intuitive and simple to use as well. Good luck.

Well, first off, "Auntie Grizzellda" prolly started this thread because I felt like posting on KVR, which is often the case.

I have a feeling that many of us KVR type of nerds would use an awesome all-in-one product if the screens were big! I totally hear what you are saying, and yes, so called "menu diving" is a substantial part of that GUI.

Of course this can be adapted to, but still...

Please give me a nice 27 inch 4K screen.

[zerocrossing]

So I am a little older over here but I won't say how much!

But I do remember, from about 1996 or so, these all in one studios for home audio production were being developed. Like the Roland VS -880, Yamaha AW16.

What about an ultra modern version of something like this?? All the power of a modern computer without the complexity. Maybe something as physically big as a 24 track mixer, but with all the latest stuff built in, no computer necessary. That would be awesome! But Noooooo...

Wait!!! The display will never be big enough...so just forget it.

Oh, Auntie Grizzellda, won't you ever learn?

I'd guess that complexity isn't really your issue, but perhaps it's dealing with less than intuitive user interfaces. I've used all sorts of products over the years, and the all-in-one hardware recorders were always the worst, because as you mentioned, the display. So you're always working with a small display. The key, IMO, is to find an intuitive to use DAW and learn it, but not all of it. A lot of people feel like they have to learn everything their DAW does, and that's just nonsense. So, say you just want to record basic rock music with hardware instruments. Watch a tutorial on YouTube that's titled, "recording a rock track with [the name of your DAW]." If you've ever used a traditional studio, you'll actually find that almost every thing about doing it in a DAW is analogous to using ol' school hardware, except you don't have to use a razor blade to cut tape.

What DAW? Well, that depends on what you want to do. I've tried a bunch of them and Bitwig works best for me, but I could have easily gone to Ableton, but it didn't have a feature that I needed. (it does now) Back in the day, I used Digital Performer, but I found that I didn't really like it's work flow, and I started getting into using a DAW as a performance tool, and Live made the most sense, and from there it was a quick jump to Bitwig, which is similar in many ways. I know a lot of people like Logic, but that's an Apple only product. I've heard that Presonus Studio One is very intuitive and simple to use as well. Good luck.

Well, first off, "Auntie Grizzellda" prolly started this thread because I felt like posting on KVR, which is often the case.

You OK?

I

have a feeling that many of us KVR type of nerds would use an awesome all-in-one product if the screens were big! I totally hear what you are saying, and yes, so called "menu diving" is a substantial part of that GUI.

Of course this can be adapted to, but still...

Please give me a nice 27 inch 4K screen.
[/quote]

You're describing a computer with a big screen and a control surface. Just get a MacBook and Console 1 and a nice monitor and you'll be getting a much better system for probably less money.

https://www.softube.com/us/console-1

[Uncle E]

I have a feeling that many of us KVR type of nerds would use an awesome all-in-one product if the screens were big! I totally hear what you are saying, and yes, so called "menu diving" is a substantial part of that GUI.

Maschine