POLL -Plugins for WinXP -11, Mac, Linux

[IvyBirds]

Useless???
It is quite interesting too see how many people use older OS, every dev who ignores it loses money.

It costs time and money to develop for old operating systems, doing so will also cripple what you are able to do when developing for modern plugins it you try to maintain backwards compatibility. Crippled plugins sell less than modern ones

In the end those things would be far more detrimental and lose far more money than developing for ancient machines and the operating systems they run on

The most profitable move is to focus on what makes up 99% of your market share and that is going to be Windows 11 and Windows 10

Modern Computers even budget ones have far more CPU and RAM available than old ones, I want developers to take that into account and push the boundaries of what plugins can do in 2026 without being handcuffed into worrying about if that will run on computers from 2006

[4_the masses]

Windows 11. We are 26 years into the 21st century. MS no longer offer support for any previous OS, so not sure why I would want to go back to way back then (just my opinion)

[mixyguy2]

WinXP obviously isn't being used any more as the poll shows

Because I know quite a lot of daw users still using Windows 7

They are the exception; it's safe to say few people are using Win 7 anymore.

I expected more KVR members to use a daw, obviously a lot of music producers still use analog and tape, that's interesting.
Or doesn't Kvr have more than 70 members?

KVR doesn't have more than 70 members interested in answering the poll I seriously doubt that means they still use analog and tape.

[mixyguy2]

Windows 11. We are 26 years into the 21st century. MS no longer offer support for any previous OS, so not sure why I would want to go back to way back then (just my opinion)

For me it's because MS makes it harder and harder to stop forced updates and gets more and more invasive/snoopy. 11 offered me nothing over 10, which itself I reluctantly accepted.

And "MS support" is an oxymoron.

[IvyBirds]

Windows 11. We are 26 years into the 21st century. MS no longer offer support for any previous OS, so not sure why I would want to go back to way back then (just my opinion)

For me it's because MS makes it harder and harder to stop forced updates and gets more and more invasive/snoopy. 11 offered me nothing over 10, which itself I reluctantly accepted.

And "MS support" is an oxymoron.

The new MIDI and USB tools in Windows 11 should make it an easy upgrade for musicians

Full MIDI 2.0 support baked right into the Operating System

Beyond that even for good old MIDI 1.0 there are massive improvements

First off you can now easily rename your MIDI ports to whatever you want AND use the same MIDI port with as many applications as you want.

Beyond that your apps can now freely share MIDI between apps with MIDI Loopbacks

And time stamps are built into the MIDI streams bouncing around inside the OS so they are super tight with timing down to one microsecond (1/1,000,000 of a second)

[4_the masses]

Windows 11. We are 26 years into the 21st century. MS no longer offer support for any previous OS, so not sure why I would want to go back to way back then (just my opinion)

For me it's because MS makes it harder and harder to stop forced updates and gets more and more invasive/snoopy. 11 offered me nothing over 10, which itself I reluctantly accepted.

And "MS support" is an oxymoron.

You can actually download a tool called Show/hide updates from MS themselves. That way you won't be "forced" any updates. Why you would wish to run an OS that has no security patches is beyond me anyway.

[BBFG#]

Windows 11. We are 26 years into the 21st century. MS no longer offer support for any previous OS, so not sure why I would want to go back to way back then (just my opinion)

For me it's because MS makes it harder and harder to stop forced updates and gets more and more invasive/snoopy. 11 offered me nothing over 10, which itself I reluctantly accepted.

And "MS support" is an oxymoron.

You can actually download a tool called Show/hide updates from MS themselves. That way you won't be "forced" any updates. Why you would wish to run an OS that has no security patches is beyond me anyway.

Please post a link to that.
I wonder why it's not already included.
And while "security updates" are nice when they can be aligned with a personal need to online presence, it's not nearly the issue that many of us are concerned with. It's the multiple ways MS is collecting data and at times, using 80% of system resources to do it. We're learning that when they speak of "security", they don't mean ours are anything doing with online security. That what they're referring to is protecting their authoritarian control in deciding what, how and who you work for.
Everytime I turn off updates, telemetry, etc. - some other processes pop up doing virtually the same thing. It seems as they've built back doors into everything to take back control, turn everything back on and force servitude of the machine to them regardless of personal purpose and preference.
I was content when they officially stopped updates for Win 10. But then they announced the extension, "magically" turned everything back on, updated it and nag of buying security support on every boot.
How are we supposed to believe anything they say now...

[mixyguy2]

Please post a link to that.
I wonder why it's not already included.
And while "security updates" are nice when they can be aligned with a personal need to online presence, it's not nearly the issue that many of us are concerned with. It's the multiple ways MS is collecting data and at times, using 80% of system resources to do it. We're learning that when they speak of "security", they don't mean ours are anything doing with online security. That what they're referring to is protecting their authoritarian control in deciding what, how and who you work for.
Everytime I turn off updates, telemetry, etc. - some other processes pop up doing virtually the same thing. It seems as they've built back doors into everything to take back control, turn everything back on and force servitude of the machine to them regardless of personal purpose and preference.
I was content when they officially stopped updates for Win 10. But then they announced the extension, "magically" turned everything back on, updated it and nag of buying security support on every boot.
How are we supposed to believe anything they say now...

Thank you for saving me the keystrokes

Also "Show/Hide updates" does not prevent them from being installed.

Plus MS' updates have mucked up my system more than once.

[DCrown]

Useless???
It is quite interesting too see how many people use older OS, every dev who ignores it loses money.

Yes useless. Nobody (with a life) cares about what OS people use and no dev is going to change their business plan based on a poll with 92 votes. It is statistically insignificant.

Going forward please put these kinds of threads in the "Everything Else (Music Related)" sub-forum to keep this forum for the discussion of actual instruments and stop sending me PMs.

I have to care a lot, cuz I teach people how to use a daw (Reaper, Pro Tools). Most have/had Win7.
You obviously have no life as your view shows.
You arrogant vibe tells me you are a loser without any musical talent.
Let's prove it and make a competition like back in the day, you can chose any instrument you want, I know I will make you look so bad, there is almost no real (instrument) I can't play.
C'mon show you are no coward or do you feel strong trying to threaten people from your safe comfort zone in a small dusty room lol

[DCrown]

"Yes useless. Nobody (with a life) cares about what OS people use and no dev is going to change their business plan based on a poll with 92 votes. It is statistically insignificant. "

Going forward please put these kinds of threads in the "Everything Else (Music Related)" sub-forum to keep this forum for the discussion of actual instruments and stop sending me PMs.
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Your post speaks for itself lol
"Stop sending me pms" and Techsonique even wrote me a private message in addition.
This might be one of the most important threads posted between 1989 and 2026.
Btw did you know that in 1989 less Elvis songs were played on radio than in 1988?
You obviously feel safe writing and threatening people from your comfort zone in a dusty tiny room lol
Is that all you've got?
Have you ever seen and touched a real instrument in your life? I am not talking about your keyboard with 41 keys (it is only 40 keys cuz low f key os broke) and without own sounds and with some strawberry jam on the mod wheel (always wash your hands b4 touching the keys!).
OS can be very important when you collaborate with different people, but I am sure no one ever wanted to collaborate or play in a band together with you, is this the reason you are so frustrated?
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It depends on your OS whether you can use very old plugins (Instruments or effects) or new plugins.
Very old plugins might not run on newest OS, new plugins might not run on old OS.
What's the conclusion?
The best thing is to have old OS and new OS at the same time to be able to use all plugins no matter old or new.
Guess what?
I do have old and new OS, I do have hahaha
As you can see 120 votes, so people join the poll.
Believe it or not I managed to convince three devs to make their plugins still run on Win7 after updates that all of a sudden didn't work any more.
What are you doing here?
Don't you have a vacuum cleaner?
Just kidding, feel free to keep on posting, your posts are entertaining, the topic obviously seems to bother you a lot, you still use Win XP, don't you?

[DCrown]

Windows 11 rules!

[vmood]

Troll post.

[Amberience]

I've always targeted the last 2 Windows releases, and last 3 MacOS releases.

XP? lol.

[El°HYM]

I agree that Windows 11 is the very best for the average, emotionally attached consumer. Matter of fact, so attached to their brand new toy, or favorite item that they will make it their favorite pet, their beloved child which needs to be defended against all odds.

[Teksonik]

Useless???
It is quite interesting too see how many people use older OS, every dev who ignores it loses money.

Yes useless. Nobody (with a life) cares about what OS people use and no dev is going to change their business plan based on a poll with 92 votes. It is statistically insignificant.

Going forward please put these kinds of threads in the "Everything Else (Music Related)" sub-forum to keep this forum for the discussion of actual instruments and stop sending me PMs.

I have to care a lot, cuz I teach people how to use a daw (Reaper, Pro Tools). Most have/had Win7.
You obviously have no life as your view shows.
You arrogant vibe tells me you are a loser without any musical talent.
Let's prove it and make a competition like back in the day, you can chose any instrument you want, I know I will make you look so bad, there is almost no real (instrument) I can't play.
C'mon show you are no coward or do you feel strong trying to threaten people from your safe comfort zone in a small dusty room lol

Just because you care about something doesn't mean the rest of us do. KVR is not your personal playground and your hostile posts prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you should not be allowed to continue here as a member. Others have been banned for less.

I didn't threaten you at all. I'm simply trying to get you to stop polluting the Instruments forum with such pointless nonsense. If you are so desperate for attention at least have some respect for the forums and post these things in the "Everything Else Music Related" forum so the rest of us who are here to discuss things that really matter can ignore them.

As I said before stop sending me PMs and stop your harassment. Is that clear?