Updated synth from AudioThing named JULY (modernized Juno emulation)

[pekbro]

Roland is notoriously litigious when it comes to their trademarks and IP. I've seen it before.

No way an indie dev wants to fight that.

Yea, but you can still make them go through the motions and cost them time and money if u want. Heh.

[Chicken Drummy]

Lush-101 was originally called Sh101ter until people pointed out it was a bit close to "shitter".

d16 seems to have trouble coming up with product names.

Sigmund, Fazortan, Nithonat, Decimort... those aren't very good names in my opinion. To me they're unappealing and don't make me think, "Ooo I have to see what this product is all about!" I suppose they could be worse.

But the fact that d16 ever thought Sh101ter was a good name is truly mind-boggling.

[SAGG]

Not really convinced, it's lacking. This thing could do with juicy patch banks. I already have so many killer patches for TAL UNO LX and Arturia Jun-6 V collected and organized over the years, I really don't see myself wasting time and effort buying a new one and reprogramming, building a new structure. No real gain here for all the hoopla.

Jun-6V in particular is dripping with phat bacon and beef. Arturians were smart going after Juno 6 for the sound. Them pads are punchy!

I'd encourage Carlo to contact Adam Borseti, who's made a ton of killer banks for OP-X Pro, Arturia, Memorymoon, XILS Lab, many HW ones as well. This guy knows his synths. Also does a hell of a synth history comedy. His "how the Prophet-5 was made" is an all-time YT epic ))

[audiojunkie]

Not really convinced, it's lacking.....

I'm interested in your thoughts comparing JULY with Tal-u-no-lx and Diva (specifically configured with the JUNO 60 modeled components. These are the only 3 that catch my interest as Juno models on Linux. How does JULY compare against these two?

[SAGG]

I'm interested in your thoughts comparing JULY with Tal-u-no-lx and Diva (specifically configured with the JUNO 60 modeled components. These are the only 3 that catch my interest as Juno models on Linux. How does JULY compare against these two?

I didn't even bother going that far. From the get-go, I didn't hear anything that would inspire me to pull my wallet and pay for it, for starters, and then go into trouble of reprogramming my other Juno patches, building a new structure, as I said. Once in a while you hear something that really ignites you, give you that spark. And then you go into trouble of doing all that, once it's really worth the trouble.

Also, I've ultimately concluded it's the seller's responsibility, not mine, to sell me the product and convince me why I should spend my money with them and not their competitors. Even by making direct A/Bs, shoot-outs, by all means, if I ever see a company demo that clearly shows me why I should go with them vs the others, I'm all for it. I wish more of those were posted. Those I've seen on YT for back when it was still called June, did nothing for me to change my mind and my long-established Juno trusty workhorses.

That's the way I envision it. Trying to convince myself I should buy something, I don't do that anymore. It's just GAS without any rhyme or reason.

So, bottom line is, it left me indifferent and I stopped right there. It's OK, but I wanted to hear more than OK.

But it doesn't mean I bash and dismiss it outright. A great sound designer could make July really sing, I suppose. Then again, a great sound designer, like that guy from SonicProjects OP-X company, could make a pineapple sing like a lyrebird in the morning, who knows..

[audiojunkie]

I'm interested in your thoughts comparing JULY with Tal-u-no-lx and Diva (specifically configured with the JUNO 60 modeled components. These are the only 3 that catch my interest as Juno models on Linux. How does JULY compare against these two?

I didn't even bother going that far. From the get-go, I didn't hear anything that would inspire me to pull my wallet and pay for it, for starters, and then go into trouble of reprogramming my other Juno patches, building a new structure, as I said. Once in a while you hear something that really ignites you, give you that spark. And then you go into trouble of doing all that, once it's really worth the trouble.

Also, I've ultimately concluded it's the seller's responsibility, not mine, to sell me the product and convince me why I should spend my money with them and not their competitors. Even by making direct A/Bs, shoot-outs, by all means, if I ever see a company demo that clearly shows me why I should go with them vs the others, I'm all for it. I wish more of those were posted. Those I've seen on YT for back when it was still called June, did nothing for me to change my mind and my long-established Juno trusty workhorses.

That's the way I envision it. Trying to convince myself I should buy something, I don't do that anymore. It's just GAS without any rhyme or reason.

So, bottom line is, it left me indifferent and I stopped right there. It's OK, but I wanted to hear more than OK.

But it doesn't mean I bash and dismiss it outright. A great sound designer could make July really sing, I suppose. Then again, a great sound designer, like that guy from SonicProjects OP-X company, could make a pineapple sing like a lyrebird in the morning, who knows..

That makes sense. Thank you for your input.

[audiothing]

I'm interested in your thoughts comparing JULY with Tal-u-no-lx and Diva (specifically configured with the JUNO 60 modeled components. These are the only 3 that catch my interest as Juno models on Linux. How does JULY compare against these two?

I didn't even bother going that far. From the get-go, I didn't hear anything that would inspire me to pull my wallet and pay for it, for starters, and then go into trouble of reprogramming my other Juno patches, building a new structure, as I said. Once in a while you hear something that really ignites you, give you that spark. And then you go into trouble of doing all that, once it's really worth the trouble.

Just so you know, we actually have a (beta) preset import that tries to port patches from other emulations to JULY. It’s not perfect, but definitely a faster starting point than recreating everything from scratch.

Also more videos are coming soon, we’ve just been a bit busy dealing with lawyers...

[twal]

I see the good in the situation. A good company enjoying their take on old favorites and making what interests them. Audiothing is inspirational in the unique way they do what they do. With June and the other synth they added the random capability which is great to have; and the quality and overall joy of the instrument is there for me.

[SAGG]

Also more videos are coming soon, we’ve just been a bit busy dealing with lawyers...

Aaah, tell them to bug off, will ya, and rather unceremoniously so while you're at it. They have nothing, period. June and July are months in a calendar year. As simple as that. And any decent lawyer will wipe his butt with these bullies.

I don't remember them giving Arturia shit about Jun-6 V and Jun-6 V is actually much worse offender than some silly June name. Jun-6 also lacks one letter from making it "Juno", but not just Juno, the full Juno-6 name, the actual model Arturia effin' did. And that's copyright.

Them buggers should lay off that ramen for a bit and educate themselves. "June" is ultimately derived from the Latin month of Iunius, named after the ancient Roman goddess Juno.

And since you're Italian, Carlo, feel free to tell them: "It's you, succhiacazzi, who steal shit from us, Romans, not the other way around! Now go suck Caligula's f.." It rhymes.

[SAGG]

Just so you know, we actually have a (beta) preset import that tries to port patches from other emulations to JULY. It’s not perfect, but definitely a faster starting point than recreating everything from scratch.

Cool! And seriously, Carlo, do contact Adam Borseti about making a patch bank for July. As long as he has time currently to dedicate himself fully to the project, you won't be left disappointed. I bought his packs, I hired him many moons ago to make a few complex, intricate custom patches, the dude is perfectionist and wouldn't quit (like a honeybadger on a pack of red bulls) unless the patch was 100% and we both agreed on it.

Adam will make July really sing, like a honeybadger on a pack of red bulls version of that "60" synthesizer.

No shame in asking a superior sound designer for help. Hell, even Rick Wright employed Jon Carin's patch making skills a shit ton, as Rick was Minimoog and Solina guy, Prophet-5, all that, those modern digital-shmigital Roland D-50's and DX Sevens, and E-max samplers, and what have you, he didn't really get. And his Super JX-10 with PG-200 programmer was the bane of his existence. Well, not just his..

[SAGG]

Just so you know, we actually have a (beta) preset import that tries to port patches from other emulations to JULY. It’s not perfect, but definitely a faster starting point than recreating everything from scratch.

Cool! And seriously, Carlo, do contact Adam Borseti about making that patch bank for July. As long as he has time currently to dedicate himself fully to the project, you won't be left disappointed. I bought his packs, I hired him many moons ago to make a few complex, intricate custom patches, the dude is perfectionist and wouldn't quit (like a honeybadger on a pack of red bulls) unless the patch was 100% and we both agreed on it.

Adam will make July really sing, like a honeybadger on a pack of red bulls version of that "J60" synthesizer.

No shame in asking a superior sound designer for help. Hell, even Rick Wright employed Jon Carin's patch making skills a shit ton, as Rick was Minimoog and Solina guy, Prophet, all that, those modern digital-schmigital D-50's, Korg M1's, DX Sevens, and E-max samplers, what have you, he didn't really get. And his Super JX-10 with PG-200 programmer was the bane of his existence. Well, not just his..

[audiojunkie]

I'm interested in your thoughts comparing JULY with Tal-u-no-lx and Diva (specifically configured with the JUNO 60 modeled components. These are the only 3 that catch my interest as Juno models on Linux. How does JULY compare against these two?

I didn't even bother going that far. From the get-go, I didn't hear anything that would inspire me to pull my wallet and pay for it, for starters, and then go into trouble of reprogramming my other Juno patches, building a new structure, as I said. Once in a while you hear something that really ignites you, give you that spark. And then you go into trouble of doing all that, once it's really worth the trouble.

Just so you know, we actually have a (beta) preset import that tries to port patches from other emulations to JULY. It’s not perfect, but definitely a faster starting point than recreating everything from scratch.

Also more videos are coming soon, we’ve just been a bit busy dealing with lawyers...

I heard about the Roland situation. I think the name, "JULY" is perfect, because we all know that it was previously called JUNE and that that name came from JUNO. So well done with the name!

That's really cool that you are working on porting patches!

I appreciate that you support Linux with your products! That's why I have so many on my purchase list.

Do you have any other synth emulations in the works right now? Something like a Jupiter 8 or an Oberheim possibly?

[SAGG]

Do you have any other synth emulations in the works right now? Something like a Jupiter 8 or an Oberheim possibly?

I'm seeing this one other synth at Audiothing HQ, as for the rest, the view is restricted

Besides, if one more Minimoog plugin gets released, Bob Moog will rise from his grave and will give somebody a good spanking.

Keith Emerson will follow promptly to play that infamous "fanfare" patch at the loudest, excruciating volume in that somebody's ear.

Proceed with caution..

[audiojunkie]

Do you have any other synth emulations in the works right now? Something like a Jupiter 8 or an Oberheim possibly?

I'm seeing this one other synth at Audiothing HQ, as for the rest, the view is restricted

Besides, if one more Minimoog plugin gets released, Bob Moog will rise from his grave and will give somebody a good spanking.

Keith Emerson will follow promptly to play that infamous "fanfare" patch at the loudest, excruciating volume in that somebody's ear.

Proceed with caution..

I see that he "has" a Minimoog, but the app that is running is "Springs". So, while having the hardware is an indicator of probability, I don't see any evidence that it is being made yet. I wouldn't mind a quality Minimoog emulation for native linux though.

Edit: Check in the background of this video to see other juicy possibilities. It looks like there are several possibilities.



Edit 2: Here are some other nice possibilities:

[SAGG]

Carlo, I see you are a synth porn hoarder, my fellow man