Small Modular System

[justin3am]

Yeah, I'd agree with the idea of starting with a semi-modular. Or maybe if you are inclined to DIY, something like this...
https://www.ericasynths.lv/mki-x-esedu-diy-system/

or this...
https://www.musicthing.co.uk/workshopsystem/

[Genetic_Junk]

Yeah, I'd agree with the idea of starting with a semi-modular. Or maybe if you are inclined to DIY, something like this...
https://www.ericasynths.lv/mki-x-esedu-diy-system/

or this...
https://www.musicthing.co.uk/workshopsystem/

Thanks Justin. The workshopsystem looks perfect. Unfortunately, my soldering skills would need to be improved before attempting.

[Genetic_Junk]

Why not a used Behringer Neutron? Sometimes you see them at stupid prices.. like 90 euros.

Sorry, I missed your post. The Neutron is a good suggestion. If I could find one for that price, that would be ideal. The Kobol Expander looks good too and is within my price range.

[Constructed Identity]

Why not a used Behringer Neutron? Sometimes you see them at stupid prices.. like 90 euros.

Sorry, I missed your post. The Neutron is a good suggestion. If I could find one for that price, that would be ideal. The Kobol Expander looks good too and is within my price range.

I based my rack around an Expander, or you could say the Expander lead me into euro rack -kicking and screaming. Now I'm addicted forever

[Nameerf]

I second (or third) the suggestion of a Behringer 2600 - however you look at it it's the cheapest way to start a modular system - when you add up all the utility modules you'll need it's totally worth it. And is great on it's own while you save up for more modules..!

[Genetic_Junk]

Why not a used Behringer Neutron? Sometimes you see them at stupid prices.. like 90 euros.

Sorry, I missed your post. The Neutron is a good suggestion. If I could find one for that price, that would be ideal. The Kobol Expander looks good too and is within my price range.

I based my rack around an Expander, or you could say the Expander lead me into euro rack -kicking and screaming. Now I'm addicted forever

I've heard lots of cool sounds of the Kobol Expander doing FM via the oscillators and filters. I haven't heard any samples of feeding its audio output to its VCF input. Have you tried this with yours?

[Genetic_Junk]

I second (or third) the suggestion of a Behringer 2600 - however you look at it it's the cheapest way to start a modular system - when you add up all the utility modules you'll need it's totally worth it. And is great on it's own while you save up for more modules..!

Yep. That one looks like great value in terms of dollars per module. If I was looking to build a big system, it wouldn't be a bad place to start. But I am trying to avoid building a big system!

[Constructed Identity]

Why not a used Behringer Neutron? Sometimes you see them at stupid prices.. like 90 euros.

Sorry, I missed your post. The Neutron is a good suggestion. If I could find one for that price, that would be ideal. The Kobol Expander looks good too and is within my price range.

I based my rack around an Expander, or you could say the Expander lead me into euro rack -kicking and screaming. Now I'm addicted forever

I've heard lots of cool sounds of the Kobol Expander doing FM via the oscillators and filters. I haven't heard any samples of feeding its audio output to its VCF input. Have you tried this with yours?

One of the first things I did was overdriving it by sending an OSC output into the 'IN 1 GAIN' (lower left) and then cranking the 'OUT GAIN' knob with its out into the 'VCF IN', but there are more creative things to do when it's in a rack, like using the headphones out as the other side of a stereo mix by sending that into another filter & VCA in a modular set up.
And it can send two envelopes out so you can control another voice/noise source to make complex sounds.
On my next album, I use it going into the little Eowave Germania 241(https://modulargrid.net/e/eowave-germania-241-) to make a truly gnarly sound...

[vurt]

I second (or third) the suggestion of a Behringer 2600 - however you look at it it's the cheapest way to start a modular system - when you add up all the utility modules you'll need it's totally worth it. And is great on it's own while you save up for more modules..!

Yep. That one looks like great value in terms of dollars per module. If I was looking to build a big system, it wouldn't be a bad place to start. But I am trying to avoid building a big system!

but, the arp plus a reasonably small system (maybe the cre8audio nifty skiff?) will give you a huge range of options!
it doesn't have to grow, more than you want it to.

[Shabdahbriah]

I second (or third) the suggestion of a Behringer 2600 - however you look at it it's the cheapest way to start a modular system - when you add up all the utility modules you'll need it's totally worth it. And is great on it's own while you save up for more modules..!

Yep. That one looks like great value in terms of dollars per module. If I was looking to build a big system, it wouldn't be a bad place to start. But I am trying to avoid building a big system!

but, the arp plus a reasonably small system (maybe the cre8audio nifty skiff?) will give you a huge range of options!
it doesn't have to grow, more than you want it to.

I completely agree with those who have suggested starting with a 'semi-modular'. The 2600 comes all in at under $500, new. And I dare say, you will find little else that compares in overall features, complexity, and versatility in eurorack format for less.
It may be rather large for a 'desktop' unit, at 8U x 19", but being designed as rack-able, that can be dealt with as such, which is an option you might give some consideration to.

That being said. Some of the other suggestions (I feel) are also worthy of note. Particularly, the Neutron, Proton, and Kobol Expander.

As can be seen here, they all take up considerable space in what I have found (having two of them) to be the best deal in powered eurorack cases (@ typically $220 +/- a few $), and as such, limit your (initial) expansion to the remaining slots:

Behringer Eurorack Go 2x140 HP Eurorack Case.png

If you can swing it, the dimensions are:

Exterior Height:12.2" ... Exterior Width:28.5" ... Exterior Depth:4.4"

The Arturia MiniBrute 2S mentioned previously, combined with Arturia's 6U RackBrute, would keep your 'scale' reasonably contained ("small"), but expandable and flexible. Though the entry price (at retail) would be several hundred $'s more than the 2600 alone, from the get-go. But you would be set for growth within those boundaries. [2c]

[Genetic_Junk]

Well the car broke down last night. So modular funds are being diverted to car repair. Unfortunately, the modular/semi-modular acquisition is on hold.

Thanks again everyone for all the suggestions and ideas.

[vurt]

sorry to hear that

but as you can see, there are many options, if you have your goal set out, for what you wish to achieve.

[pekbro]

Cars suck... Though to me they are just another modular system and that makes it almost impossible for me to pay someone to fix it, and I hate working on them, it's like torture.

[Genetic_Junk]

Yeah I don't like working on them either. The battery voltage seems to be wonky. Hopefully a new battery resolves the issue. I'd much rather get a semi-modular synth than pay a mechanic for a diagnostic.

[bmanic]

Yeah I don't like working on them either. The battery voltage seems to be wonky. Hopefully a new battery resolves the issue. I'd much rather get a semi-modular synth than pay a mechanic for a diagnostic.

Not related to synths at all, but I do highly HIGHLY recommend checking this out for your DIY car diagnostic needs:

https://kingbolentool.com/products/king ... d2-scanner

Check some reviews of it first and make sure it supports your car/brand. But it has been my own experience that this thing is one of the best things you can do for your own diagnostics of a car. It also allows you to call out bullshit when some dodgy mechanic tries to rip you off.