4.2 BILLION SOUNDS

[zerocrossing]

If you spent a second on each sound it would take you 133 years of nonstop auditioning to hear them all.

Hmmmm, I'm not so sure about that. I ate some bad gas station sushi once and my GI tract made at least 4 billion sounds in about 3 hours.

Maybe it only seemed like that because you were hallucinating.

[zerocrossing]

If you spent a second on each sound it would take you 133 years of nonstop auditioning to hear them all.

Best get started then

I haven’t even finished the presets of the synthesizers I already have!

[Cuauhtli]

Just to be that ass: how many sounds can you get out of an average 2 osc subtractive synth?

[ghettosynth]

Just to be that ass: how many sounds can you get out of an average 2 osc subtractive synth?

Three or four.

[Uncle E]

Every single sound in that video was bad.

[Shabdahbriah]

Every single sound in that video was bad.

Yeeeah, I didn't experience any 'wow' moments either, and certainly wouldn't proclaim what I heard as "inspiring", but I think there is a potential market for a hardware one-button-press four channel MIDI randomization feature alone.

Notwithstanding, $149.00 for all of the following is pretty reasonable, and the price of those I suspect will soon follow on the second hand market will be even more reasonable, for those who are accustomed to mindlessly playing with their food.

• 8 synthesis engines: subtractive, fm, acid, noise, speech, karplus-strong, supersaw, additive
  
  4 simultaneous instruments per patch, individually mixable
  
  4 simultaneous euclidean sequences, playable over MIDI (see below)
  
  20 scales
  
  5 filter types
  
  4-track audio output over usb-c (one track per instrument, pre-reverb)
  
  4-channel MIDI in: play RND synth with keyboards or sequencers (usb-c + trs mini jack)
  
  4-channel MIDI out: send 4 random sequences to other instruments (usb-c)
  
  9 MIDI modes: see below.
  
  MIDI clock in (usb-c + trs mini jack) and out (usb-c)
  
  analog sync in and out (2 ts mini jack)
  
  stereo mix out (trs mini jack / post-reverb)

[liqih]

So lazy are we?

[MrJubbly]

Is that the hardware version of Autogun?

lol...that's what people said in the comments...also this...memba berries

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/the-el ... ise-by-ugo

That was always the worst thing about Autogun.

Hence the need for it's bigger and better brother Ogun.

[whyterabbyt]

Im curious about the definition of 'sounds' here, given that my brain seems to think that having 8 parameters with a value range of 0-15 per parameter gives you 4.2 billion possible settings.

(https://coolconversion.com/math/exponen ... ower-of_8_)

[bermudagold]

Every single sound in that video was bad.

Yeeeah, I didn't experience any 'wow' moments either, and certainly wouldn't proclaim what I heard as "inspiring", but I think there is a potential market for a hardware one-button-press four channel MIDI randomization feature alone.

Notwithstanding, $149.00 for all of the following is pretty reasonable,

yeah was kinda surprised by the reception...its surprisingly robust and well thought out concept both functionally and as art, for by todays standard relatively low price...add another usb port for an external drive and another raspberry pie to analyze the sample drive according to some small set of metrics and apply some small set of heuristics to steer the randomization and sequencing in highest probability musical directions...and they may be onto something

[elxsound]

Of course someone will like it. I’ve already seen some excited by it on another forum.

Having needed to interact with a number of AI music tools that essentially do the same thing, I can’t say this seems fun. The whole push/click receive result and repeat until you find something enjoyable is 100% not enjoyable to me at least.

Clearly there’s a market for it and the “hey look at what I did” crowd is ready to showcase anything resembling good/passable for 15 seconds. It makes sense why this can exist.

Yeah, I’m not jaded at all.

I’m pretty sure I have more than 4.2 billion options every time I choose to play. From my short and recent experience with one click options, it takes longer to find something decent than just playing and shaping along the way.

[Uncle E]

Yeeeah, I didn't experience any 'wow' moments either, and certainly wouldn't proclaim what I heard as "inspiring", but I think there is a potential market for a hardware one-button-press four channel MIDI randomization feature alone.

You're right, and I actually like the concept, I just can't understand how every sound in the video was so bad.

[bermudagold]

Of course someone will like it. I’ve already seen some excited by it on another forum.

Having needed to interact with a number of AI music tools that essentially do the same thing, I can’t say this seems fun. The whole push/click receive result and repeat until you find something enjoyable is 100% not enjoyable to me at least.

Clearly there’s a market for it and the “hey look at what I did” crowd is ready to showcase anything resembling good/passable for 15 seconds. It makes sense why this can exist.

Yeah, I’m not jaded at all.

I’m pretty sure I have more than 4.2 billion options every time I choose to play. From my short and recent experience with one click options, it takes longer to find something decent than just playing and shaping along the way.

sure...i prefer deterministic workflows to stochastic ones...but if you go by kvr threads, people are constantly looking to be inspired by stochastic processes...its the most requested feature...people don't realize how much they can increase time waste and ear fatigue...but they are entertainment...same reason people can sit in vegas in front of slot machines all day

[elxsound]

Of course someone will like it. I’ve already seen some excited by it on another forum.

Having needed to interact with a number of AI music tools that essentially do the same thing, I can’t say this seems fun. The whole push/click receive result and repeat until you find something enjoyable is 100% not enjoyable to me at least.

Clearly there’s a market for it and the “hey look at what I did” crowd is ready to showcase anything resembling good/passable for 15 seconds. It makes sense why this can exist.

Yeah, I’m not jaded at all.

I’m pretty sure I have more than 4.2 billion options every time I choose to play. From my short and recent experience with one click options, it takes longer to find something decent than just playing and shaping along the way.

sure...i prefer deterministic workflows to stochastic ones...but if you go by kvr threads, people are constantly looking to be inspired by stochastic processes...its the most requested feature...people don't realize how much they can increase time waste and ear fatigue...but they are entertainment...same reason people can sit in vegas in front of slot machines all day

Yeah… There’s some reaching. How is it “the most requested feature?”

Anyway, I called this a novelty device earlier it so seems we’re in agreement to some degree.

[bermudagold]

Of course someone will like it. I’ve already seen some excited by it on another forum.

Having needed to interact with a number of AI music tools that essentially do the same thing, I can’t say this seems fun. The whole push/click receive result and repeat until you find something enjoyable is 100% not enjoyable to me at least.

Clearly there’s a market for it and the “hey look at what I did” crowd is ready to showcase anything resembling good/passable for 15 seconds. It makes sense why this can exist.

Yeah, I’m not jaded at all.

I’m pretty sure I have more than 4.2 billion options every time I choose to play. From my short and recent experience with one click options, it takes longer to find something decent than just playing and shaping along the way.

sure...i prefer deterministic workflows to stochastic ones...but if you go by kvr threads, people are constantly looking to be inspired by stochastic processes...its the most requested feature...people don't realize how much they can increase time waste and ear fatigue...but they are entertainment...same reason people can sit in vegas in front of slot machines all day

Yeah… There’s some reaching. How is it “the most requested feature?”

Anyway, I called this a novelty device earlier it so seems we’re in agreement to some degree.

far from reaching...every new plug thread before it reaches second page is someone asking for a random button...look at the popularity of plugins promoting non deterministic happy accident workflows...no hyperbole from me...lots of hardware could be considered novelty devices at this point...cause they all have more powerful comparable products in software