Can FLS 5 help us get by without Pro-Tools or Audition??????

[cspear]

I've been using a combination of FL STudio and Audition for ages... from when they were called something else. FL's sequencing and pattern-based workflow makes the creative side a cinch, Audition's powerful tools make the final mixing and mastering a breeze. I can't think of any reason I'd need anything else, except maybe (with FL 5) an upgrade to the Producer Edition.

[Jaeson Merrill]

theres very little feature overlap with the FLStudio+Audition combination, its a good one!!

They both do much of what the other cannot! (mostly FLstudio)

[Beardedone]

I also have used the combination of Fruity and CEP/Audition for a long time now. I rely on Auditon for editing and Mastering duties. Both apps are extremlystable and versatile.

[jardim do mar]

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Does FL5 have:

- Clip restoration
- Click/Pop removal
- Noise reduction
- Hiss reduction
- Frequency Spectrum analysis, including the ability to apply effects to specific frequencies only
- Vocal extraction
- Professional mastering tools
- Convolution based effects
- FX freeze/lock
- PDC
- Graphic Phase shifter
- Scientific filters
- Doppler Shifter
- Pitch correction
- integrated CD burning
- CD ripping
- support for a wide range of audio formats including MP3Pro
- Audio correction at sample level accuracy
- 30 band EQ
- FFT filter

If the answer is no to any of these, then to work with audio at a professional level you may need to hang onto Audition, Tony.

You know an (almost free) www.goldwave.com (http://www.goldwave.com) almost does all of that. Registration cost $45 USD.

Anyway, if you work entirely in FL you won't need most of those functions...they are for fixing problems you won't have

Carb.

I do understand how "you" feel ,,,,but,,,
many people who do experience problems and are willing to pay "someone" to fix those problems ASAP.

IMHO, Fl 5 is one of the most creative computerized music composition software programs on the market, but to "intentionally" limit yourself to "only" use FL ,,limits your own creative potential,,

[AtomicXL]

I stopped recording in Audition when version 4.0 came out. All I use it for now is to compress the final mix down from FLS.

If the Wave Editor in FLS could run as a seperate program and use FL/VST/DX effects i'd have no use for Audiion at all.

[tERMoBLUe]

the new version is brilliant ...all, what the heart of the intuitive musician desires everything...the price performance relationship in comparison with other programs is absolutly correct - thx to image-line ...cya

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[TVD]

I stopped recording in Audition when version 4.0 came out. All I use it for now is to compress the final mix down from FLS.

If the Wave Editor in FLS could run as a seperate program and use FL/VST/DX effects i'd have no use for Audiion at all.

This is close to what I was think about.

Has FLS gotten to the point (or close to the point) of being a "all-in-one" product?

Keep in mind that the same thing was ask about Live in previous threads. And the reactions were mixed.

[digitaldoom]

I've used Cubase SX for quite some time to record my guitar. In FLStudio 4.5.2 to record audio you had to specify the name of the wav to record, per part. Then editing it just didn't seem as easy as it is in a sequencer like Cubase SX.

Does FL5 improve this in any way?

If not, I think I'd just use FLStudio for making beats and backing tracks. Export them to wav and import them into Cubase SX.

I sure wish FLStudio would beef up in this area so I didn't have to bounce projects between apps. Not because I can't, but because it slows me down.

[Mystical_Fantasy]

Let the controversy begin...

To be specific, is FLS (at v5.0) finally good enough for any of you to try to get by without Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion, Acid Pro, Live, Pro-Tools, or Audition?

[VariKusBrainZ]

Dont know about those other progs but now FL has time stretching, loop recording and decent automation it could be a cheap alternative to Ableton Live, they share the same time stretch technology after all and Fruitys Playlist can be used for live triggering of patterns - plus the sequencer and supplied synths and effects top those in Live, well not the effects IMHO

[usob solina]

It just doesn't have the power, flexibilty or the ability to produce the sound of professional sequencing software

Please give some exemples!

[Jaeson Merrill]

Let the controversy begin...

To be specific, is FLS (at v5.0) finally good enough for any of you to try to get by without Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion, Acid Pro, Live, Pro-Tools, or Audition?

Absolutely not! There is no way that Fruity can top the functions and features of the top sequencers such as Cubase, Sonar, etc. I mean it's not even close. There is no way I could achieve what I am trying to do musically with FL alone. It just doesn't have the power, flexibilty or the ability to produce the sound of professional sequencing software. With Fruity you get what you pay for and the sample quality alone of the Fruity plugs, etc. shows the kind of software it is and the rather low price you can purchase it for.

I'm not knocking Fruity as I myself started using this back around the 2.0 or so release and used it for awhile but as my music setup became more sophisticated (not to mention a lot more complicated ), Fruity as of today is no longer on my drive nor do I use it anymore. Later.

power? flexability? Ability?

I dunno, sounds like crap to me.

its all in the workflow.

i wouldnt use FL for full blown multitrack recordings.

what i do is produce all the non-human tracks in FL (BFD, Sytrus, loops, etc)

and render them as seperate tracks into my host, or load FL as a vsti inside my host.

I hate all other hosts' midi and automation. FL is king of them all when it comes to that.

EVEN before i begin the final project, theres nothing like FL for laying down a beat and jamming over it with recordings, laying down ideas ultra quick.

my workflow:

BFD, make beats in FL.

record quick guitar and vox in FL with shure sm57

create whole song in FL (the backing tracks basically you could say, non human parts like BFD, Sytrus, loops, sound fx)

delete scratch ideas.

load as vsti or rewire device in Cubase SL2 or other host (maybe even tracktion now that its free )

record well, rehearsed tracks over top of arrangement.

render, throw into audition, and compress, add final eq.

I am very much considering changing my workflow to bypass the middle host. (FL > Audition) but its just something im not used to yet. Also, FL doesnt have freeze, or PDC, which are nessecary for me honestly.

FL has all the features to be a multitrack audio/midi sequencer really, plus all the other amazing control and sound options it has.

it just depends on your workflow.

[TVD]

Let the controversy begin...

To be specific, is FLS (at v5.0) finally good enough for any of you to try to get by without Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion, Acid Pro, Live, Pro-Tools, or Audition?

Absolutely not! There is no way that Fruity can top the functions and features of the top sequencers such as Cubase, Sonar, etc. I mean it's not even close. There is no way I could achieve what I am trying to do musically with FL alone. It just doesn't have the power, flexibilty or the ability to produce the sound of professional sequencing software. With Fruity you get what you pay for and the sample quality alone of the Fruity plugs, etc. shows the kind of software it is and the rather low price you can purchase it for.

I'm not knocking Fruity as I myself started using this back around the 2.0 or so release and used it for awhile but as my music setup became more sophisticated (not to mention a lot more complicated ), Fruity as of today is no longer on my drive nor do I use it anymore. Later.

Things have change as you fully understand your production setup. No arguement there.

[Jaeson Merrill]

Let the controversy begin...

To be specific, is FLS (at v5.0) finally good enough for any of you to try to get by without Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion, Acid Pro, Live, Pro-Tools, or Audition?

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its really a VAGUE question come to think of it..

"good enough" ??

very vague question when everyone has a different view point; EDIT: workflow.... and needs.

it would be better to ask: can FL do multitrack recording and wave editing? if so, is it like protools, audition, etc...

[TVD]

Let the controversy begin...

To be specific, is FLS (at v5.0) finally good enough for any of you to try to get by without Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion, Acid Pro, Live, Pro-Tools, or Audition?

Absolutely not! There is no way that Fruity can top the functions and features of the top sequencers such as Cubase, Sonar, etc. I mean it's not even close. There is no way I could achieve what I am trying to do musically with FL alone. It just doesn't have the power, flexibilty or the ability to produce the sound of professional sequencing software. With Fruity you get what you pay for and the sample quality alone of the Fruity plugs, etc. shows the kind of software it is and the rather low price you can purchase it for.

I'm not knocking Fruity as I myself started using this back around the 2.0 or so release and used it for awhile but as my music setup became more sophisticated (not to mention a lot more complicated ), Fruity as of today is no longer on my drive nor do I use it anymore. Later.

power? flexability? Ability?

I dunno, sounds like crap to me.

its all in the workflow.

i wouldnt use FL for full blown multitrack recordings.

what i do is produce all the non-human tracks in FL (BFD, Sytrus, loops, etc)

and render them as seperate tracks into my host, or load FL as a vsti inside my host.

I hate all other hosts' midi and automation. FL is king of them all when it comes to that.

EVEN before i begin the final project, theres nothing like FL for laying down a beat and jamming over it with recordings, laying down ideas ultra quick.

my workflow:

BFD, make beats in FL.

record quick guitar and vox in FL with shure sm57

create whole song in FL (the backing tracks basically you could say, non human parts like BFD, Sytrus, loops, sound fx)

delete scratch ideas.

load as vsti or rewire device in Cubase SL2 or other host (maybe even tracktion now that its free )

record well, rehearsed tracks over top of arrangement.

render, throw into audition, and compress, add final eq.

I am very much considering changing my workflow to bypass the middle host. (FL > Audition) but its just something im not used to yet. Also, FL doesnt have freeze, or PDC, which are nessecary for me honestly.

FL has all the features to be a multitrack audio/midi sequencer really, plus all the other amazing control and sound options it has.

it just depends on your workflow.

I like my workflow to be simple and straight to the point. That is why FLS is here to say.

"Workflow".....an arguement in itself. And it is all Cakewalk's fault!!!