Big Beat drum production tips and tricks

[High Voltage]

cool. thanks.

[CypherOne]

well I have to say, I've followed the small bits of advice in this thread, and my drums sound shit...

I've no problem with the patterns, but when I start compressing the drums it all goes to shit. Can anyone suggest some good settings for the compressor (I know that may be fairly subjective), it's too many buttons and sliders for my tiny mind to comprehend

Also, can anyone recommend some good distortion plugs for drums?

Maybe I'm just a fuckwit who should give up now, I dunno.

[snooky]

man distortion is the key. cool, non-linear distortion and as you said, eq, and a hard compression. offcourse you may use samples from more than one loop, a cool snare from here, a cool kick from there. another thing is mixing synthetic bass or kick under the sample.

check mine
http://www.bk-recordings.com/vol2/HighV ... actory.mp3

and http://www.bk-recordings.com/highvoltage/


for more heheh.

this tune -Plastic Factory- is really psycho...wonder how all of that squelching and screeching goes down in a crowded club...tinnitus anyone?

cool tune tho'

[Ackelito]

well I have to say, I've followed the small bits of advice in this thread, and my drums sound shit...

I've no problem with the patterns, but when I start compressing the drums it all goes to shit. Can anyone suggest some good settings for the compressor (I know that may be fairly subjective), it's too many buttons and sliders for my tiny mind to comprehend

Also, can anyone recommend some good distortion plugs for drums?

Maybe I'm just a fuckwit who should give up now, I dunno.

Firstly, read this!
http://psbg.emusician.com/ar/emusic_big_squeeze/

a tip that jdg brought more to my attention is to mix the compressed signal with the dry signal of the drums! try it out

also the best way to get familiar with the compressor is to apply it on audiofiles, this way you also see what happens and not just hear it, cause compression can be a hard thing to hear(at least for a untrained ear(like mine)),so a visualization can be handy!

somebody might give you some basic compressor settings for drums, but that wont help you getting more knowledge on the matter...

thats my tiny cents...

[safeaim]

Big up to High Voltage aka teh man
Nice songs.. I love it

[Ackelito]

man distortion is the key. cool, non-linear distortion and as you said, eq, and a hard compression. offcourse you may use samples from more than one loop, a cool snare from here, a cool kick from there. another thing is mixing synthetic bass or kick under the sample.

check mine
http://www.bk-recordings.com/vol2/HighV ... actory.mp3

and http://www.bk-recordings.com/highvoltage/


for more heheh.

this tune -Plastic Factory- is really psycho...wonder how all of that squelching and screeching goes down in a crowded club...tinnitus anyone?

cool tune tho'

haha yeah.. i noticed today when i played it real low,, the squelching and screeching is heard real good at low volumes..

but its a wicked tune

[clueless]

hello?

[CypherOne]

mother?

[RChler]

give lot of compression and cymbals (esspecially crashes) a try

[Highvoltage]

man there are really no good answers to these questions. I think "big beat" or call it anything, relies so heavily on beats (surprise) that the main art of it is making good drums. and its a whole artform on its own i think, so experimenting is the key. There are so many cool techniques for making the phat beat, i cant tell . but some hints: use very old beats from the 70's < the era of the coolest loops on earth. also multiband compression, and distorion. you must find the great hitting freq of the snare (somewhere at 100-200) a litle punch there mmmmmhhh snares
mmmhh basdrums
mmmmmmhh cymbals <makes the f**king world go 'round

and the bass must work together the drums

am i talkin stupid? dunno
just experiment!! good luck
HV

[CypherOne]

having heard one of your tracks I'd say that any advice from you is useful so thanks

[donkey tugger]

well I have to say, I've followed the small bits of advice in this thread, and my drums sound shit...

I've no problem with the patterns, but when I start compressing the drums it all goes to shit. Can anyone suggest some good settings for the compressor (I know that may be fairly subjective), it's too many buttons and sliders for my tiny mind to comprehend
.

Blockfish has a preset called , 'fat drum loop'.....they're not wrong.

[CypherOne]

oh so it has, would you look at that?

I think I might switch to ambibollox (tm)..

[Ackelito]

having heard one of your tracks I'd say that any advice from you is useful so thanks

hey groupie boy!

[Hunter]

Give Camelophat a try.

but it was the only time I've managed to use SuperCamelPhat (it does exactly what it says on the tin).

Well I thought I'd have a play around with the good ideas on this thread, so I got a simple beat and phattened it up with Supercamelphat2 (nice name , Ben )

Here is the raw beat:

Raw beat

And here is the beat with camelphat distortion, compression etc

Camelphatted Beat

And I had a mess about with the filter on camelphat and got this cool 'shouty' effect:

Camelphatted beat #2


Pretty cool, methinks, I think I might have to turn this into a tune

Jim