KVR Audio

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:16 pm

Damn, that B&O looks nice. I wonder how good it sounds though.

I've tried a few different headphones with the iPod including my Sony 7506's, and all that does is let me hear the iPod's shortcomings even clearer. I'm no audiophile by any means, but for $350 I was expecting it to sound a little better.

butter · Post by **butter** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:19 pm

what do you have your audio encoded as and at what bitrate? that is the first culprit of bad sound.

Glooper · Post by **Glooper** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:20 pm

You can also use high quality MP3's with the IPod... definitely get better headphones as well...

I like my ipod.. but agree sound quality is not the best..
I've also listened to an iriver and creative zen.. and they weren't really any better... to be honest... and the ipod is the nicest to use

Ben

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:35 pm

I've imported CDs as both AAC which is supposed to be lossless, and as 256 mp3's. I think it's more of an AD conversion issue than audio encoding. The same mp3's played through my old TDK Mojo CD player sound much better, but the TDK is just about dead. That's the reason why I bought the iPod in the first place.

efluon · Post by **efluon** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:49 pm

i love the sound of my iriver (ihp120), i'm always stunned when comparing it to laptops, even with better builtin soundcards, or other players (ipod, gmini, creative, all others i listened too). optical in/out too. just the joystick sucks. and not being able to create playlists on the player..

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:34 pm

shamann wrote:
ericj23 wrote:so don't give them any money OK
Ah, but it is sooo sleek and alluring.

another one drawn in - like moths to a moulded high impact plastic design

tragic (now where's the tragic emoticon)

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:53 pm

Their site says 'Did you know \ All our products are built with materials that are what they appear to be'. Does that mean it's made out of...plastic?

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:04 pm

the iriver has a 20 gig hard drive in it, is the hard drive user upgradable?, if so that one is definitely goin on my shortList.

One · Post by **One** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:55 pm

Iriver H40 is tpos imo.

Built in recording too!

TankGirl · Post by **TankGirl** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:07 pm

My iRiver h40 sounds amazing with the user-configured DSP WOW surrond setting.

Without it, though, it's not much better than an iPod.

efluon · Post by **efluon** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:13 am

WOW sounds like shit. try good headphones or speakers if you miss the bass or do not hear a difference. and do not use low bitrate files for testing.

BitFlipper · Post by **BitFlipper** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:48 am

What I want to know is there any flash based players that supports Napster To Go (MS' new Janus)? The only players that do support NTG right now seems to be HD based, which is out of the question for me (actually for my wife). She jogs and we tried an iPod and it starts skipping after about 15 minutes or so of jogging. Don't let the idiots jumping around with the iPods in the commercials fool you, they do skip once their buffered data runs out.

As far as I know the only two flash based "players" that do support NTG is the AudioVox phone and the Dell Axim X50, neither of which is what we are looking for.

Any ideas?

BitFlipper

Glooper · Post by **Glooper** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:18 am

Here's another reason to stick with the ipod

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1232

Ben

Voidoid Surrealist · Post by **Voidoid Surrealist** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:57 am

Danish design? Bollocks!
I know for a fact that it was designed by NAMCO.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:41 am

I'm interested in that new 1GIG flash player from Iriver.. 60 hours of playback with one charge

and I never put more than 1gig of music on a player anyway so I don't need the stupendious amount of storage

What is the best sounding portable mp3 player?