The REAL Rap/Hip-Hop Culture

[TVD]

How many more of these posts, TVD?
You must be getting bored now, surely.

Gotta mention this though, seeing as it's there:
Thread title: The REAL Rap/Hip-Hop culture.
So, against my better judgement, I clicked the first link and the first words to jump out at me were:
UB 40.

Ya gots to larf aint ya?

One More Thing:

You know you used to listen to rap music back in the 80's. So quit frontin'!!!

[Glassback]

How many more of these posts, TVD?
You must be getting bored now, surely.

Gotta mention this though, seeing as it's there:
Thread title: The REAL Rap/Hip-Hop culture.
So, against my better judgement, I clicked the first link and the first words to jump out at me were:
UB 40.

Ya gots to larf aint ya?

I started this thread in respond to this one:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 96&start=0

And another thing (since you're a little behind YOUR black history), Afrika Bambaataa is THE Godfather of Hip-Hop Culture. And yes, he is the man behind such Hip-Hop (and electronic) classics as Planet Rock & Looking For The Perfect Beat.

Humour, Tone, humour.
Of course I saw the name Afrika Bambaata. But only after I'd seen the name UB40 which just cracked me up.
And gosh-darn it man - of course I know who Afrikaa Bambaata is.

[Glassback]

How many more of these posts, TVD?
You must be getting bored now, surely.

Gotta mention this though, seeing as it's there:
Thread title: The REAL Rap/Hip-Hop culture.
So, against my better judgement, I clicked the first link and the first words to jump out at me were:
UB 40.

Ya gots to larf aint ya?

One More Thing:

You know you used to listen to rap music back in the 80's. So quit frontin'!!!

Streetsounds Electro mainly as it goes.
Afrika Bambaata (:hihi: ), Al-nafiyish (sp?), G/Master Flash, Melle Mel, Sugarhill Gang... later Deee-Lite, Ragga Twins, stuff like that and t'ing.

Got into it all when tripping on acid once. Wasn't too keen before that, listened to my Streetsounds albums and some other stuff - split my sides laughing and was blown away.
I 'got it' after that.

Not too keen on the stuff around at the mo though. Leaves me a bit cold tbh.

[Hypertone]

CORRECTION: Dr. Dre was in a band called The World Class Wreckin Cru.

I stand corrected!

I think The Cabbage Patch is the name of the track where he disses smoking weed.

[BONES]

I hate the term hip-hop culture.

But its almost certainly the cultural aspect of the scene that has made it so commercially acceptable. Malcolm MacLaren realised its importance when he was pushing punk. Its the same with goth, reggae, techno and a bunch of other genres. I've been into what would later be called goth music since well before anyone had a label for it [or at least before I was aware of any label] but I have never bought into that or any other scene/culture. I find the whole thing, this burning desire to conform, quite disturbing.

[elhefe23]

Isn't Columbus where blueprint, illogic & greenhouse effect hail from?

You are correct sir. Just got to say that I love Blueprint. Both the Soul Position cds are very good. He is such a great, charismatic live performer too.

[diverdee]

I hate the term hip-hop culture.

I find the whole thing, this burning desire to conform, quite disturbing.

It's kind of understandable in young teens - peer pressure & all that, wanting to find an identity in the group.
But your right it is disturbing.
Over here in the U.K. there's this huge macho male drink 20 bottles of wik'd, get pissed as a rat drinking culture that people identify with - to the point where if you don't conform you are labelled a wuss.
I don't get it, sure I drunk in my late teens early 20's & gave it up after the alcohol poisoning & senseless fights.
I like hip-hop, but I don't see it as a 'culture', a form of sub-culture maybe - but then which hip-hop?
It has travelled in many different directions now.

[TVD]

How many more of these posts, TVD?
You must be getting bored now, surely.

Gotta mention this though, seeing as it's there:
Thread title: The REAL Rap/Hip-Hop culture.
So, against my better judgement, I clicked the first link and the first words to jump out at me were:
UB 40.

Ya gots to larf aint ya?

One More Thing:

You know you used to listen to rap music back in the 80's. So quit frontin'!!!

Streetsounds Electro mainly as it goes.
Afrika Bambaata (:hihi: ), Al-nafiyish (sp?), G/Master Flash, Melle Mel, Sugarhill Gang... later Deee-Lite, Ragga Twins, stuff like that and t'ing.

Got into it all when tripping on acid once. Wasn't too keen before that, listened to my Streetsounds albums and some other stuff - split my sides laughing and was blown away.
I 'got it' after that.

Not too keen on the stuff around at the mo though. Leaves me a bit cold tbh.

Speaking of cold, remember this?:lol::

[Glassback]

My word - that was terrible stuff. There was so much better around at the time. This was weak and sounds even more dated than most music of that era.

Some stuff still stands the test of time (fitting into the categories 'classic', 'timeless' or 'just bloody good music') G/M Flash for instance...
stuff like Mann Parish sounds really thin now, even Herbie Hancocks stuff (Rockitt etc) sounds just really old now.
Still love tracks like 'On The Upside', 'Planet Rock', 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' (the album's rubbish now though), etc but mostly the music sounds as dated as the dress sense now looks.

Ever hear of a band called Set The Tone? They did some wicked 12" singles, but the album was a real let down.


Anyway, just a few of my thoughts.

[Pantsdown666]

Isn't Columbus where blueprint, illogic & greenhouse effect hail from?

You are correct sir. Just got to say that I love Blueprint. Both the Soul Position cds are very good. He is such a great, charismatic live performer too.

I love RJD2's beats on those too - great albums!

[ultimo]

ehm, I think why people are calling it a Hip-Hop culture is that It contains more than music!
graffiti, breakdancing, turntablism, spoken word, reflection of inner city life, etc...
is all a part of hip-hop.

So do understand Hip-Hop is not equal to RAP

[RawTheory]

ehm, I think why people are calling it a Hip-Hop culture is that It contains more than music!
graffiti, breakdancing, turntablism, spoken word, reflection of inner city life, etc...
is all a part of hip-hop.

So do understand Hip-Hop is not equal to RAP

Exactly. It isn't black and white as to who is involved with HipHop culture either. But if all you do is listen to the music occasionally, you're just listening to rap not participating in culture. Ive been rapping for years but I don't readily identify with ALL of the culture because its been co-opted by corporations which are sucking the life out of it. I USED to but not anymore. That said, I still feel a part of it, only more tangential.

[Voidoid Surrealist]

xoxos our education isnt sponsored by pepsi, theyre sponsored by taxes.

Sorry, but xoxos is right on this one.

In Toronto, Pepsi is allowed to fill the 560 public schools with its vending machines, to block the sales of Coke and other competitors, and to distribute “Pepsi Achievement Awards” and other goods displaying its logo. In communities like Cayuga, a rural Ontario tobacco-farming town, Pepsi buys the right to brand entire schools. “Pepsi – Official Soft Drink of Cayuga Secondary School” reads the giant sign beside the road. At South Fork High School in Florida, there is a blunt, hard-sell arrangement: the school has a clause in its Pepsi contract committing the school to “make its best effort to maximize all sales opportunities for Pepsi-Cola products”.

[Glassback]

In 1998 Coke ran a schools competition asking them to come up with ideas for distributing Coke coupons to students. Greenbriar High in Georgia took it all so seriously that the school organised an official Coke Day in which all students came to school in Coca-Cola T-shirts, posed for a photo in a formation spelling out the word Coke, and attended lectures given by Coke executives. All was going so wonderfully well until the school principal and visiting Coke VIPs heard about an act of defiance from one of the students who turned up for school in a Pepsi T-shirt. He was immediately suspended.

Sorry, OT, but I read it and just howwwwled.

[Stupid American Pig]

how do you get to become a coke execultive. They must have hi incidence of heart attack and strokes.