KVR Audio

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:03 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote: Drawing all those little bricks is boring. Density of the reverb is loose,

Very much agree with this! It's too loose for percussive sounds but with high damping it's good for synths pads, vocals and anything non-transient heavy. I also think it might be good for overall glue in mixes (not fully tried yet).

Aleksey Vaneev wrote: so this indeed technically is very close to Cakewalk's FX3 stage simulator
(this one also sounded decent for the most part).

This however I do not agree with at all.

The cakewalk reverb sounded horrible in all situations.. even by that times standards. IMHO!

Aleksey Vaneev wrote: This approach looked to me like a refined and greatly simplified Impulse Modeler. Probably I have to create a similar reverb at some point in the future.

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!

- bManic

Paulie Phonick · Post by **Paulie Phonick** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:21 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:This approach looked to me like a refined and greatly simplified Impulse Modeler. Probably I have to create a similar reverb at some point in the future.

Oh, please do. With polylines and modulation for polyline points. Would be wicked to hear that!

Andrew Milne · Post by **Andrew Milne** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:42 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:Probably I have to create a similar reverb at some point in the future.

Yes, Aleksey, you do. In fact I demand it

Andrew Milne · Post by **Andrew Milne** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:52 pm

BTW - where is this Rayspace - I can't find it?

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:26 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:This approach looked to me like a refined and greatly simplified Impulse Modeler. Probably I have to create a similar reverb at some point in the future.

Iwas working with Impulse Modeler over the weekend (actually it was having fun with me - I'm an IM beginner!) and wished it was a VST plugin where I could move walls and emitters and receptors around in real time (then freeze it maybe).

Put me on the customer list for this new thing too!

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:32 pm

kylen wrote:
Aleksey Vaneev wrote:This approach looked to me like a refined and greatly simplified Impulse Modeler. Probably I have to create a similar reverb at some point in the future.
Iwas working with Impulse Modeler over the weekend (actually it was having fun with me - I'm an IM beginner!) and wished it was a VST plugin where I could move walls and emitters and receptors around in real time (then freeze it maybe).

Put me on the customer list for this new thing too!

I think it would be awesome to combine IM and a plugin that does the same thing (but of course in lower resolution) in real-time and then, as kylen said, be able to freeze the results and free up CPU. Or maybe you could integrate IM+Pristinespace in a clever way while also providing a realtime, non-static, ray trace engine (like RaySpace, which is kind of alive and modulating).

- bManic

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:39 pm

Heard this thing while visiting bManic. I have to agree with about anything he said. Interesting plugin indeed, just needs some refinement. Especially in the area of having more rays and some more control to make it smoother...

Aleksey really should surprise us with his take on this - he's already providing about the best plugins in every category he's done so far, so a reverb in this vein would most likely wipe the floor with most of the competition

Regards,

JMH

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:42 pm

it's too expensive

robertb · Post by **robertb** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:42 pm

I'd like to be able to assign multiple input sources and place them in different locations relative to the listner. That would be the true deal...! The plugin itself actually sounds pretty good, except for that annoying buzz.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:45 pm

tuz wrote:it's too expensive

.. the KvR motto ..

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:47 pm

robertb wrote:I'd like to be able to assign multiple input sources and place them in different locations relative to the listner. That would be the true deal...! The plugin itself actually sounds pretty good, except for that annoying buzz.

Yes! Very good suggestion also! This would absolutely kill!

-bManic

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:07 pm

I guess at the end of the day, there is nothing quite like a little TC lovin.

www.headroomproductions.com/Audio/WetTCspace.mp3

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:47 pm

Indeed.. that is the "holy grail" for realistic non-convolution reverbs. Jmh, Kingston and myself got a full dose of that lovin while demoing a TC 6000 system at the university. I tell ya.. it's not healthy, not healthy at all!

- bManic

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:14 pm

Sigh... I was trying to repress those TC memories!!!

Multiple input sources would be killer on Rayspace, but with the CPU consumption it already has... at least, it oughta be a separate version so people wouldn't have to pay for features they might not want or need. But a great idea still.

Regards,

JMH

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:53 pm

Sorry for bringin' those old memories up! Oh well.. if I ever win the national lottery then I'll buy one so that you can come here and drool over it.

- bManic