The bedroom producers abridged manifesto.

[jmh]

After reading a couple of manifestos from "design communities" (such as Lebedev, the ones behind that beautiful Optimus concept keyboard with oled displays on each key), I can only agree with Andrew and Rob.

I guess everybody goes through that manifesto phase somewhere along their path... most do it early and then progress

Regards,

JMH

[bobbyblank]

meh.

i certainly don't think manifestos could germinate in KVR. Or in most forums, if at all.

ideas are great, though. i'm glad people have them.

[dystonia_ek]

I love a good manifesto, whether I agree or not. So go ahead!

[bobbyblank]

dystonia- your music is taking me places. very nice. noises: how humble! do you refer to 'the art of noises' in your compositions?

[dystonia_ek]

I wouldn't call myself a Futurist (the fascist tendencies tend to disagree with me) but the ideas about sound were definitely an influence. Always wanted to build my own Intonarumori too, though I don't have the space unfortunately.
Thanks for listening!

[respirator]

"let us cross a great modern capital with our ears more alert than our eyes and we will get enjoyment from distinguishing the eddying of water, air and gas in metal pipes, the grumbling noises that breathe and pulse with indisputable animility, the palpitation of waves, the coming and going of pistons, the howl of mechanical saws, the jolting of the tram on its rails, the cracking of whips, the flapping of curtains and flags.
We enjoy creating mental orchestrations of crashing down of metal shop blinds, slamming doors, the hubbub and shuffle of crowds, the variety of din from the stations, railways, iron foundries, spinning mills, printing works, electric power stations and underground railways"

Luigi Russolo, 1913 (inventor of the Intonarumori)

Now thats a manifesto! Dystonia: Thanx for reminding!

[Newbie Brad]

http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Documents/S4B/sem01.html

[kritikon]

Hmmm....I never understood why so many musicians consider themselves as poets or essayists, and god forbid, philosophers. Normally it's just an embarrassment.

I'm not going to grab my balls and shove them down anybody's throat, thanks...

[stefancrs]

I say, music schmusic! Stop caring so much and just go on doing what you like, who cares what others think of your interest in music and music-making?

[riley4reason]

10 years from now people will spend allot of money to emulate the imperfections of today,s technology.

Riley

[gambaytheunspoken]

A spectre is haunting KVR..well, you know the rest.
Ciao.

[aldred]

How about ..... if you're crap give up.

mark

[rockstar_not]

OK, this is not a manifesto, but rather a description of a utopian place that Francis Bacon's wrote in his "New Atlantis", 1626 AD

"We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demon- strate all sounds and their generation. We have harmony which you have not, of quarter-sounds and lesser slides of sounds. Divers instruments of music likewise to you unknown, some sweeter than any you have; with bells and rings that are dainty and sweet. We represent small sounds as great and deep, likewise great sounds extenuate and sharp; we make divers tremblings and warblings of sounds, which in their orig- inal are entire. We represent and imitate all articulate sounds and letters, and the voices and notes of beasts and birds. We have certain helps which, set to the ear, do further the hearing greatly; we have also divers strange and artificial echoes, re- flecting the voice many times, and, as it were, tossing it; and some that give back the voice louder than it came, some shriller and some deeper; yea, some rendering the voice, differing in the letters or articulate sound from that they receive. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances."

Pre-dates Mr. Russolo's similar statement about sound by about 300 years.

I think that about sums up what you can hear out of KVR-ians, yes?

-Scott

[dystonia_ek]

OK, this is not a manifesto, but rather a description of a utopian place that Francis Bacon's wrote in his "New Atlantis", 1626 AD

"We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demon- strate all sounds and their generation. We have harmony which you have not, of quarter-sounds and lesser slides of sounds. Divers instruments of music likewise to you unknown, some sweeter than any you have; with bells and rings that are dainty and sweet. We represent small sounds as great and deep, likewise great sounds extenuate and sharp; we make divers tremblings and warblings of sounds, which in their orig- inal are entire. We represent and imitate all articulate sounds and letters, and the voices and notes of beasts and birds. We have certain helps which, set to the ear, do further the hearing greatly; we have also divers strange and artificial echoes, re- flecting the voice many times, and, as it were, tossing it; and some that give back the voice louder than it came, some shriller and some deeper; yea, some rendering the voice, differing in the letters or articulate sound from that they receive. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances."

Pre-dates Mr. Russolo's similar statement about sound by about 300 years.

I think that about sums up what you can hear out of KVR-ians, yes?

-Scott

I know that one - predates the futurists, of course, but lacks ferocity IMO.

[Amberience]

Hmmm....I never understood why so many musicians consider themselves as poets or essayists, and god forbid, philosophers. Normally it's just an embarrassment.

You never understood why musicians/composers consider themselves THINKERS???