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Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:09 am

Tony, is your WX5 the sax type thing (all I can find online) or is it based on trumpet mouthpiece and valve fingering?

yah the wx5 is a sax style controller, i learned sax after trumpet, even bad sax players get more gigs and solos than good trumpeters.

theres 3 trumpet style controllers, the akai and steiner evi's and the morrison digital trumpet.

you can find links to all of em here:

www.patchmanmusic.com

bernhardtjeff · Post by **bernhardtjeff** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:12 am

Is that Tom Browne?

no, it's jon faddis.

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:30 am

Tony Ostinato wrote:yah the wx5 is a sax style controller, i learned sax after trumpet, even bad sax players get more gigs and solos than good trumpeters.

theres 3 trumpet style controllers, the akai and steiner evi's and the morrison digital trumpet.

you can find links to all of em here:

www.patchmanmusic.com

OK - thanks for those links.

I did it in the other order so I would probably find the sax fingering easier although the MDT looks pretty amazing - pricy though (ouch!).

I've seen Morrison playing live since he was about 19 but he was playing the EWI thing last time I saw him using a synth controller. Besides his trumpet playing he has the most amazing tone and facility on trombone.

Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:42 am

At least for now the sax controllers are far easier and ill tell yah why, it because all the trumpet style controls force you to employ your leftt hand to control where in the harmonic series you are, theres none that do it by breath speed (probably wont be for awhile).

akai has you roll your left thumb over touch sensitive rollers and the mdt uses buttons.

the nice thing about the mdt is you can assign controllers that are placed all over the thing, more even than the wx5.

mman · Post by **mman** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:25 pm

ZioKiller wrote:Beta 3:

http://www.gmlab.it/_temp/MilesTone_b3.zip

Date: Jan 28, 2006
- Added: User selectable AT or CC for both expression and vibrato
- Modified: tube resonance better scaled

...and something else here and there...

Is this still available or I missed this....

duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:35 pm

I just dl'ed it, so I guess it is

DSP

gambaytheunspoken · Post by **gambaytheunspoken** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:12 pm

anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X

[/quote] All I can say is damn! This is a nice ripping piece. Reminds me a little of Tom Browne (as gregjazz says) but more, at leat to my ears, like Maynard Ferguson from Primal Scream. Terrific stuff.
Ciao

mman · Post by **mman** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:18 pm

duncanparsons wrote:I just dl'ed it, so I guess it is

DSP

Ahh, yes I have it now. Don't know, maybe I was doing something wrong there

fahlen · Post by **fahlen** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:01 pm

I appreciate the hard work that apparently goes into this physical modelling project.

Yesterday I downloaded and played the beta patches via a master keyboard and breath controller with a great deal of expectations. I did find an expressive instrument which is already fun to deal with...congrats to the achievement so far:-)

I then proceeded and started to do detailed A/B tests with my Yamaha VL1-m ver. 2 with existing, fine-tuned trumpet voices. It was at this time I also reinvested some appreciation to the achievments done by Stanford/Yamaha more than a decade ago:-). In fact, the more I played and listened the more I'm convinced that the Yamaha VL-1's PM models of trumpets, (incl. saxophones, bass clarinets, etc.), combining expressivity, adjustability and realism, are still the ones to be rivalled even today.

There is a slight "plastic" touch with the existing beta versions that I find disturbing to listen to in the long run. It might be able to get this effect reduced with a dedicated wind controller (I´m a keyboardist with a breath controller and don't know what can be altered by shifting instrument) but in all instances I've listened to so far this "plastic" feeling is quite noticable.

Based on the developer's previous records I'm though quite confident that this project will evolve to something really useful. Keep it going:-)

Cheers,
Anders Fahlén
Agronova
Sweden

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:47 pm

bernhardtjeff wrote:anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X

F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!

amoebe · Post by **amoebe** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:10 pm

F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!

You said it. Now where is the rest of that song.

ZioKiller · Post by **ZioKiller** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:12 pm

ianweb123 wrote:
bernhardtjeff wrote:anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X
F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!

In fact, don't believe it. It's a real trumpet.

rogerperrin · Post by **rogerperrin** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:15 pm

ianweb123 wrote:
bernhardtjeff wrote:anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X
F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!

Apparently Bernhardt Jeff is saying that the clip is actually a recording of Jon Faddis - and not done with MilesTone. I just about passed out when I first heard it, thinking it was Milestone. Either way, it's a great clip.

pd · Post by pd » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:18 pm

rogerperrin wrote:
ianweb123 wrote:
bernhardtjeff wrote:anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X
F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!
Apparently Bernhardt Jeff is saying that the clip is actually a recording of Jon Faddis - and not done with MilesTone. I just about passed out when I first heard it, thinking it was Milestone. Either way, it's a great clip.

Sounded more like Arturo Sandoval to me. I know I've heard this before but can't remember which album.

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:22 pm

rogerperrin wrote:
ianweb123 wrote:
bernhardtjeff wrote:anyway, here's a brief clip i made with milestones: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MN2 ... BYJ4SUCK2X
F**king Unbelievable.. That is just so good..!
Apparently Bernhardt Jeff is saying that the clip is actually a recording of Jon Faddis - and not done with MilesTone. I just about passed out when I first heard it, thinking it was Milestone. Either way, it's a great clip.

Oh I see

And the point of that was??

Miles'tone VST trumpet - Official Release